>> I lie, you lie, what's the difference?

> Definitely not what I'm trying to say.

To be clear, I did say that I was taking it out of context and that my objection is to when it's taken too far.

> Propaganda is influence.

> Facts are facts.

Very well said.

However, I do think that comparing American and Russian propaganda is a false equivalency; they are not similar at all - that is what I'm referring to when I object to saying 'it's all the same'. I'm not naive; I don't at all trust everything the American government says, but there are many, many major differences between American news and information and Russian.