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Comment by NTDF9 | Hacker News Reader

Does anyone else feel like OP is having to do waaay too much to land a job?

That's because "we only hire the best." Also "we have not invested in our own hiring process so it's a total crap shoot but we aren't even cognizant of this fact."

Actually no. The industry has changed a great deal in just the last 5 years. I think the days of just having Google or Apple on your resume and getting another gig are over. The only thing having a high profile company on your resume says is that you likely need a high salary. It's just cheaper to higher the new CS grad for $80k year.

"The only thing having a high profile company on your resume says is that you likely need a high salary"

- It might say that you have some experience that could save the new company a lot of money.

"It's just cheaper to higher the new CS grad for $80k year."

- $80k is only the debit side of the balance sheet so so "cheaper" is correct. But "more economical" might not be.

I don't disagree. You give hiring managers too much credit though.

I recently changed jobs, and most I realized companies are atrocious at hiring. I came from a bigger company that invests heavily in hiring. They spend tons of cash and employee time in activities to spur hiring, and it's the only place I've worked full time.

I found it a bit surprising that many other companies only do a few interviews, use only external recruiters and have never tried to do any form of publicity nor recruiting event.

Many of them had not even looked at my Github profile.

I'm sure the OP would have no difficulty picking up another QA job, but thats not what he wants. He wants to move to highly specialized fields.

I don't know anything about what it is like to get a job in the tech industry in the bay area but I am surprised that working at Apple for a few years doesn't make it much easier to get a job.

Experience > Education?

It always blows my mind to see QA or DBA or Sysadmins with great degrees. Maybe that's the job they want OR they got siloed because of their first job.

That, plus all the companies bellyaching about how hard it is to recruit, should tell you all you need to know about our industry.

I have been pretty vocal about how retarded their hiring processes are, including on hacker news. You should see how many downvotes and comments I get from people supporting current hiring processes.

I sometimes wonder if people working in these companies are genuinely deluded about how stupid their processes are.

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