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Ask HN: Will Bootstrap 4 be released in our lifetime?

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Bootstrap 4 has been stuck at Alpha 6 for over six months now. (Title is tongue-in-cheek and a bit of rant.)

Of course, Bootstrap 4 is still in active development, but the documentation is stale and outdated. For example, many classes have been removed or changed since Alpha 6.

Ideally, there'd be more frequent updates or an Alpha 7 so people have an easier time moving to the final version of Bootstrap 4 when it's released.

What's a good HTML/CSS/JS framework in 2017 with plenty of full-featured components and written to use flexbox by default?

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Why yes, it will!

I'm late to this thread, but I don't check Hacker News often and missed the tweet from @tedmiston. The first beta is coming soon—I basically spent all weekend working on it while recovering from a cold. There's a project on our GitHub repo for tracking the outstanding todos: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/projects/3.

(There's also one for the second beta, too, which you'll notice is quite narrow in in focus right now :).)

I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm exhausted and haven't had time to work on open source. GitHub takes up the bulk of my time—ask my dog and my girlfriend—and I don't often have the energy to switch contexts. I'm working on that though. Suffice to say that yes, we'll have a release soon.

Also, I do still plan on going back to Bootstrap 3 and shipping some updates there. That version took so much of my time and we iterated on it quite heavily. It's super stable still.

Hope that helps!

Thanks for your work @mdo - excited for the beta. I think everyone I know is psyched for sass and cards (and all of the other goodies).

Spectre.css is pretty amazing: https://picturepan2.github.io/spectre/

I feel a bit stuck. The problem is that bootstrap gives me access to so many great themes out there.

Looks nice. Though agreed with above comment - a key feature of Bootstrap for me is the themes. I wish there were more good frameworks with beautiful themes marketplaces where I could pay ~$19 for new themes.

Tachyons CSS is also nice.

Humorous, but true. For fellow developers that insist on using Bootstrap, I've been telling them to use the stable 3.* version.

I remember contributing to a Code for America project and the guy who was organizing it really wanted to use Bootstrap 4. I objected and noted that, for one, Bootstrap 4 is an alpha-stage project and there is very little reason to use it for a new CfA project. That it will break during development cycles, be harder for new developers to pick up, and would make it harder to target Microsoft (read: Internet Explorer) driven machines used by government employees.

His response was 'nawh.'

That was... a year ago, I think? I stopped contributing for other reasons but it's somewhat humorous that Bootstrap 4 is still in alpha.

Bootstrap 3 and Foundation 5 are both really nice, mature frameworks.

Bootstrap 4 and Foundation 6 on the other hand seem to be having problems. I think part of it is that developer interest stalled with the explosion of framework-specific component libraries for React, Vue, Angular, Ember, etc.

I was always a find of the Foundation framework instead of Boostrap for this very reason. Much faster iteration cycles.

Problem with Foundation for me is their atrocious documentation. Their focus on videos is a turn-off. It is much faster to scan text for relevant information than listen to someone drivel for 10+ minutes in video. Videos waste too much time. I rather see them post the video transcripts so that I don't have to listen to someone go on and on.

I checked the GitHub issues, issue projects, milestones, labels, and all that but all looks a bit out of date.

I tweeted this thread to @mdo, so we'll see if he happens to stop by with an update on when v4 will hit beta.

Suggest title revision to something like "what's a good alternative to Bootstrap 4?" since that is the question in effect. (current title is a wry extrapolation of the background)

Nah, the title's fine. They're two questions.

I think it will be released around the same time as Immutable.js 4.0.

For reference, the v4.0.0-alpha tag was created on Aug 19, 2015.

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