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Perfect, then they don't need US' $$ (or NATO) either, so... everybody's happy ?

Nah, NATO is required for that to work. It's like a group ticket. The more you are, the cheaper it gets for each individual. NATO only needs to collectively have more capability than the biggest external threat. More than that is overspending.

And the US are not paying $$ for anybodys army. And they know very well how to use their own capabilities outside of NATO and for their own interests.

Ok so, yet again, it seems that there should be no problem with the US doing their own thing?

Do you mean overspending as the US currently do, to compensate for European countries are not paying their fair share, while getting most of the outcome ?

Because this is the bottom of it. European countries want the protection, while not paying their share, and making fun on Uncle Sam spending so much on their military, and not enough on their social program.

The US spends more on military than the next 8 countries combined. A quarter of that would be enough for NATO, which is for defense only, now that the Cold War is over.

Europeans don't want the US playing global super power. They don't need it. And they ain't paying for it.

So, we do agree that NATO is a thing of the past and that the US, as well, can lower their payment to the organisation ?

[the answer to this question is of course "no", European countries still want the US to be paying for their "protection".]

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