How to lose weight: What worked for me, with graphs
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Pick up cycling! So much more efficient use of your energy, meaning you can utilize it more often to hop around town!
Walking is great -- you'll need to pick up the distance soon, though, and perhaps make it a daily thing. As you walk more (and as you lose weight) your body will get better at walking. And don't worry too much about the food intake -- learn to listen to your body's needs rather than its wants. It can happen. If you are walking about an hour a day for exercise (along with the normal shuffling about), you should probably be able to get by on something in the neighborhood of 1500 calories -- and that can represent a lot of food if you're eating the right stuff, so feeling hungry doesn't have to be part of the deal. (Keep the time and effort constant -- if you're walking about 3 mph now, you'll find it steps up to 4 mph pretty much by itself. I regularly catch and pass "joggers" these days.)
I've lost just a little bit more than 160 pounds, but I started at a slightly more modest 300-ish (just shy). Just walking, dumping the egregiously horrid foodstuffs and being engaged with the meal I'm eating (rather than absently putting stuff in my mouth while doing other things) did almost all of the work. (Unfortunately, at fifty the skin doesn't quite snap back the way it might have if I'd done it at thirty -- I look way too much like a shar-pei these days.)
It really is about calories in versus calories out. Managing calories in doesn't have to be hard -- it's more about mindfulness than about absolute quantity. It's keeping that arse in gear, even if that means low gear until your capabilities catch up with your ambition, that makes the big difference.
Now I'm starting to feel like an Atkins Zeolot, I've been defending low-carb on HN so much lately, but I can't let a statement like that sit on itself! There's tons of scientific evidence for Atkins and everybody I talked to that investigated it, agrees.
Furthermore "eating less" will not work, if you're eating mostly carbs. There's a high probability your body will just go into starvation mode. Meaning you'll store about the same amount of fat, while there's less energy to be spend for your body, making you sleepy and lightheaded. Graphing your weight won't change anything about that.
Weighing daily and graphing simply promote awareness and can be motivating.
One of the things that makes low-carb believers like myself seem like crackpots is our unwillingness to acknowledge that moderate carb consumption can be a reasonable diet because we believe it to be suboptimal.
For the average individual, simply eliminating most dietary sugar and refined carbohydrates would generate enough significant weight loss and health benefits to encourage them to maintain such a diet (which is likely to be more varied and interesting than a strict low carb diet) for long periods of time.
In my third iteration, I'm also tending to avoid the starchy stuff most of the time (not always though). In the first two, though, I happily ate a sandwich for lunch and potatoes for breakfast, and still lost plenty of both weight and fat.
I won't get into a debate about Atkins. I am naturally dubious of extreme diets (and Atkins is extreme, no matter which way you slice it), but it's worth pointing out that "what you eat" is only one third of this method. The first 2/3rds are all about motivation, and they're the important part. The third part merely suggests one way to "eat less".
http://higher-thought.net/complete-notes-to-good-calories-ba...
5. Obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation, not overeating, and not sedentary behavior.
6. Consuming excess calories does not cause us to grow fatter, any more than it causes a child to grow taller. Expending more energy than we consume does not lead to long-term weight loss; it leads to hunger.
So if I didn't have this disorder I can over-eat and become sedentary and not become obese?
Have you ever met skinny unhealthy programmers who are very sedentary and eat a lot of junk food? I have met many. The point is that different people have very different reactions to food, in terms of hunger, mental reward pathways, tendency to burn off calories through adjusting subjective energy levels (e.g. lethargy) and things like jittering, and hormonal responses. Some of this is affected by the kinds of foods we eat, and much of it is affected by genetics.
The real point is that we can do better than saying "just eat less and exercise more" by looking at things from a different perspective. (I'm speaking as someone who lost 45 pounds in the last year and am currently at about 10-11% bodyfat by the way.)
Can you share how you got to where you are now?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=carbs-again...
So low carbs can be healthy even if you're not trying to lose weight.
The article contends that graphing your weight on a daily basis is a good motivator, and I agree with this as well. Doesn't have to be a computer graph either, a piece of graph paper posted on the bathroom wall by the scale does just fine.
1) Never skip any meal. You are using a short-term, unsustainable, trick to drop some lbs you are guaranteed to put back on because you are not teaching yourself anything sustainable (same reason that low carb diets don't work long term for 90% of people).
2) Weighing yourself all the time when losing weight by diet alone is a psychological game that suggests you have a "goal" weight in mind which you will get to and have not gained any idea of food discipline or life-long control which should be your primary goal.
3) People who over eat can suffer from guilt cycles and your weight at any one point can induce more guilt (gaining pounds when you feel you have made even more effort to eat) even though it is not relevant as long as the over-all trend for life-long health is getting to and maintaining an approximate body shape which can fluctuate and still be healthy.
4) Being on a diet means coming off a diet. You will learn no long-term lessons about how your body and eating habits work for you.
I agree with him that exercising for weight loss is a _lot_ harder than simply not eating shit/unhealthy food (or excess amounts of healthy food)
However going into caloric deficit without a solid resistance training plan is a sure way to shed more muscle than you likely want.
You shouldn't think in terms of weight loss, you should think in terms of fat loss. You don't want to be shedding muscle. A simple resistance/calisthenic training program such as body weight exercises like pushups/planks/squats/burpees/pullups(if you can) will ensure that you have a better chance at retaining muscle, while shedding fat.
Also, using scales is simply not an accurate way to measure fat loss. The simplest way to measure your fat-loss progress at home is the good old tape measure.
Good luck.
Note how each time the starting weight is over the last ending weight? And this is the problem, right there. It is not hard to find an eating regime that will help you lose weight. That's the easy part. The hard part for many is not gaining weight when you are not "manning the store", so to speak.
There's a lengthy period of time which I haven't typed in the data for where I just weighed myself every day. I still managed to keep the weight off when I did that. The minute I stopped weighing myself, though, the weight piled back on.
A daily ritual of stepping on a scale seems a small price to pay for not needing to worry about weight gain, though.
Then I moved to China a few years ago, and late last year heard about the Chinese proverb: "Eat heaps for breakfast, eat enough for lunch, and eat little for dinner". This was news to me because all my life I thought I had to eat dinner every day. So I started following that rule, still eating the same food I always did, including heaps of eggs for breakfast. I also started keeping absolutely no food in my apartment, apart for milk for coffee, and instead ate out for every meal. In China there's always many restaurants a short walk from one's home.
Winter arrived, with the cold, some snow, and occasional rain, and I started skipping dinners because I was too lazy to go out, and dinners were now just snacks. After a few weeks, I noticed I weren't ever hungry in the evening. Even when I ate lunch when the restaurants opened at 11:00am, then nothing else for the rest of the day, I still weren't hungry, as long as I had a big breakfast. After a few months, I noticed I didn't have much fat where there'd been some for at least a decade, so I weighed myself: only 80kg. I've since come down to 75kg (BMI 27), but have sat at that weight for 2 months. I now weigh myself every day because (for some reason :-) I always remember to.
One other thing: I stopped eating white rice with my meals. The restaurants I frequent around here probably think I'm a foreign oddity who pays for two dishes instead of just one with free bowls of rice. I still eat noodles or potatoes every day though.
All this weight loss happened without trying very hard: eating the same fatty food I always did, virtually never eating after lunch, not exercising except for a few long walks every week, and not eating rice with my meals. Just a few simple rules. One thing I've accepted is: If I want to stay at this weight, I'll never be eating after lunch time again, and I can live with that.
So if you backslide a bit and stop watching what you eat, you can still help yourself out by exercising.
I exercise daily, 20-40mins on a bike and usually a 30-60min swim, and I'll do some light weights a couple of times a week. This may sound like a lot of exercise, but it's really not. It's an hour or two a day of being active. That's in no way overdoing it, even though when I tell people this, a lot of times their reaction is that to tell me I am. I built up to this from an almost completely sedentary lifestyle in which I did almost nothing but sit at the computer and work.
This helped, and definitely made me feel better, physically. I'm healthier than I have been in a long time, and doing this, I started slowly losing weight, but the big difference came when I cut out processed sugars and lowered my carbohydrate intake. It's not a super-low low-carb extreme diet, but it's definitely a lot lower than it was.
I felt even better, more energy, more weight loss (about 3x faster than I was before), headaches went away, and I started sleeping better.
Once I got used to not having all the sugar and carbs, my body stopped craving it. It took some willpower at first, but now it's basically easy to stick to, because I'm used to eating healthier and just don't have any desire not to anymore.
One of them is lineardiet.com.
The idea is simple. You just enter your current weight (C) and your desired weight (D). The service then plots you a graph with a line from weight C to weight D. The Y axis is the weight and the X axis is time.
Now you have to weigh yourself every day.
If you are above the line it's BROCCOLI DAY (as in: watch what you eat).
If you are below the line it's PIZZA DAY (as in: eat whatever you like).
That's it. It's guaranteed to work! :)
Could be a fun little service. Business model? I plan to collect all the fat people are losing and sell it as eco-fuel. ;) No, not really. It's just for fun.
Now if I only didn't have a ton of other projects like this plus a life to lead... one day...
Actually, I leave this as a question to the HN community: what would be fastest way for me to finish this service? I'm talking hours of development time, not days.
How would you build it?
If I were doing it I'd use the HTML-5 localStorage and the 'manifest' offline web page stuff and just keep it all on person's phone.[2] Maybe I'd sync it up to a server somewhere in case they lost their phone.
[1] Warts list:
• Bang Bang is inexplicably slow. I'm down the stairs, through the house and out the door sometimes before I can get my weight entered.
• The keyboard entry is inappropriate. Even assuming you want keyboard, you only need 10 digits and a decimal point, the whole keyboard makes the touch points to small and fiddly. Still better would be a roller. Today's weight is pretty close to yesterday's. One motion would suffice.
• Some error checking wouldn't be bad. If I accidentally enter 600 pounds more than yesterday, maybe flag me instead of just graphing the result.
• The starting date is lost in the UI.
• The UI to get the starting weight and ending targets is unintuitive and will only be found by accident. Like by tapping at the screen while yelling "Why is this tiny graph so slow to draw‽"
* Use a tiny framework like Flask that will let you get up and running quickly. It's a two-page site -- you don't need Django/Rails.
* Pare down the features to the bare minimum: no signups, accounts, etc. You put in your numbers, get sent to lineardiet.com/diet/abc123/ and have to bookmark that if you want to get back to it..
* Use an simple data model like: ID -> {start_date, end_date, start_weight, end_weight}.
* Render graphs in-browser with Raphael.
A tweak to your broccoli vs pizza day (great way to put it!): It's hard to take broccoli day seriously if it's just a random fluctuation. So we have a Yellow Brick Road that you follow to your goal. The centerline of the Road is what you call the line from C to D. And then there's a right and wrong lane of the Yellow Brick Road (lane width dynamically adjusts to account for random fluctuation) and broccoli mode starts in earnest when you're in the wrong lane and in danger of going off the Road.
The biggest failure mode of kibotzer/lineardiet seems to be painting yourself into a corner by going above the line a bit planning to catch back up, and then a bit more, until it's hopeless. We have a bunch of ideas for how to address that...
I've also integrated the Withing's wifi scale, so daily readings are fully automated!
In college I lost a fair amount of weight by eschewing snacks altogether and eating three large meals every day, meals filled with whole grains that take a while to eat and a while to digest too.
I found that this made the willpower thing a lot easier to deal with. Once you're in the habit of eating well three times a day, and not at all at other times, it becomes easier to cut down on overall food intake. You just don't even consider snacking if you're used to not snacking.
1. This is what works for one person. Every body is different and everyone's daily routines are different, so what works for one may not work for another.
2. This diet distinctly lacks any form of exercise and implies that by simply eating less and weighing yourself every day is the key to losing weight.
While this may be true and may make you lose weight, it will not make you healthy. It's a fine balance between diet and exercise and it takes some time to find a solution that is right for you.
If you really want to be healthy and not just lose weight I would suggest seeing both a personal fitness instructor and a dietician, both of whom can tailor a program depending on your own body and level of fitness. It is really the safest (and I stress safest as following any sort of dietary or exercise advice from the internet can be extremely dangerous) and easiest way to lose weight and become healthy.
I've found that losing the fat was impossibly hard no matter how healthy I tried to make my lifestyle. I suspect that once I have gotten rid of most of that fat, exercising will result in more visible improvements (muscles are much more visible when not covered in thick layers of fat), which will generate motivation for me to keep exercising. We'll see.
EDIT: Yea, I guess it is probably a constant (person-specific) error. The first google result said
>Use [the scales] to measure your progress only. Don't compare your body fat percentage to tables or to your friends score. It is probably inaccurate no matter what the manufacturers say.
I guess if you calibrated this with a one-time, accurate body-fat measurement, it would be pretty good set-up.
EDIT2: Well, maybe not. Some people apparently report that the (cheap?) scales vary several percentage points during a single day. My calibration method also seems vulnerable to the fact that people store their fat in different places on their body depending on their genetics. Maybe this can be fixed with two calibration measurements...
One of the biggest factors in the accuracy of the older Tanita brand scales (this is the brand I have had for many years) is your hydration. For example, if you weigh right when you get out of the shower (even toweled dry), your reported body fat will be much lower than your reported body fat before the shower.
They are also sensitive to callouses on your feet.
My brother reports much more consistent results with a handheld body fat analyzer, but I've never tried one on a consistent basis.
Other things that influenced the percentage included:
* eating some very salty stuff the previous day (drives down the percentage)
* getting drunk the previous day (same, weirdly enough)
* eating something late the previous day (same)
You can get decent progress tracking so long as you keep your diet relatively steady and weigh yourself at the same time each day. Even so, there will be odd variations of up to 1.5% in a day, but as you can see from the graphs they usually melt back into an average trend.
Here's another data point: I lost 3kg when I started running. It was not my intention to lose weight at all, it just happened. In my experience running makes you eat less, I had to make a conscious effort to eat more.
This can also be a dangerous path for people that are not great self-starters. Using the scale every day teaches you to become obsessed with your weight. A lot (not all) make the association of:
My weight == My self worth
So if they slip up and put on 3 pounds, they feel horrible about themselves. I also think this doesn't promote a healthy long-term method of thinking because at some point you will stop loosing weight. At some point you will have that beach body you wanted -- and then what? If you were obsessed all along with the weight of BF measurements, then you can potentially loose your cause to continue.
This happened to me when I lost 30 lbs. I was so obsessed with the weight, I took it off in 2 months, and kept it off for about 6... then gained it all back + 10lbs over the next 2 years due mostly to being "bored" once I was "done" with the diet and had been at my goal weight for so long.
Again, this just happened to work for me.
I actually like excercise, but I liked food more. So without giving up the good quality foods I liked (eating fast food for every meal doesn't count) I upped my activity level to compensate and have enjoyed a much healthier method of taking off weight for my personality type.
I still have a bit of a gut, but I'm stronger, faster and cardio is much better with better blood work -- and that is what matters to me long-term. These are the type of habits I want to carry forward... needing to work out every day, enjoying what I do.
I want to pass good habits to my kids some day, and that all starts with learning to love physical movement I think (unless you are a phenomenal eater, then that's good too... but most of us aren't)
If you don't mind playing sports or exercise and LOVE food, then try and play with upping your activity level instead of dialing back your diet.
Fight 1 battle at a time.
The pride and confidence you will gain from feeling better will naturally translate to not eating so much of the really terrible food (drive thru) and instead replacing it with something slightly worse... maybe a veggie pizza or something.
That being said, I'm by no means a guru, I just know for 10 years I've tried everything and this is the only thing that worked for me.
Also, if you are the type that likes to push yourself and kick your own ass to see if you can take it -- you need to look into CrossFit, it's awesome.
A much better idea is to change your diet completely, so your taste buds change and you stop craving unhealthy things.
A wrote a similar article 3 years ago, and took a completely different method. I lost 40 lbs in 4 months, and has kept it off since (ok, I may have gained 5-10 lbs since the peak). Not adding a "shameless plug" since I've stopped updating this site a long time ago, but I think it's still useful: http://www.alexanderkharlamov.com/2007/07/22/how-to-lose-wei...
I have regained weight only when I stopped weighing/charting. Weighing yourself once a day is not an onerous expenditure of time and energy, and I believe it achieves the goal of faking "100% steel willpower" by generating a little willpower for you every day.
I've lost close to 90 pounds over the last year. Honestly, I didn't expect to be this successful. I thought that after a few months, I'd lose the motivation. But every day I tell myself, "Forget yesterday. Forget tomorrow. Get through today, that's your goal."
Now some days, I didn't get through. But the next day, I'd begin all over as if it never happened. If you don't worry about willpower lapses, you will find it easier to get back to it. 100% willpower is an illusion created by having over 50% willpower along a great enough timeline.
But - if it works for you, that's awesome. I definitely don't want to discourage you from what you're doing if it works. It looks like you have a lot of willpower, much more than I or most people I know do, so just keep doing it.
It has helped a lot with the recordkeeping part of dieting I always do so poorly at.
Those people have always irked me because they would have the same amount of fat as me, but wouldn't get crap for it because it wasn't as visibly obvious. Whereas, for most of my life, I've been what you could call "fit fat(?)". Reasonably strong with above average endurance but obviously carrying a lot of baggage. Unfortunately, I eventually got an office job and went to being just plain fat. But I've decreased my caloric intake to lose weight and started training to increase my strength and endurance.
The fruitarian diet is where you only eat fruits and vegetables and drink water and 100% pure juices. Avocados have the protein you need, and you can do without starch for 2 weeks.
It really cleanses your body and leaves you feeling great! I'd suggest doing a fruitarian diet once every few months for cleansing purposes.
I wonder how this plays into a more muscle-building oriented plan. Doesn't seem like being calorie deficient all evening into next morning would be good for building muscle.
You can do exercise on the "big breakfast" approach - but you'll find it much easier to do so in the morning. I doubt you'd gain much muscle while in a 500-1000 daily calorie deficit, but you could certainly help maintain it, and after a nice big breakfast you wouldn't be short of energy to lift weights.
1.) This guy is saying that the
Delta Fat Stores = Energy In-Energy Out
Well, which is the cause and which is the effect? Isn't it possible that when Energy Out changes, so does Energy In? And, if that's not the case, why don't kids grow obese when they start eating as if they're bodybuilders? The kids eat a lot because they're growing; they're not growing because they're eating a lot. A hormonal drive increases appetite. Pregnant women also grow fatter because of hormones.2.) Folks say that even an extra 100 calories per day will make you get fat over a year. Bogus; the variables Energy In and Energy Out are dependent. As Energy In changes, so does Energy Out. Also, have you ever had a really, really indulgent meal? I mean, over a fat-pound's worth of calories. You didn't wake up with an extra pound of fat, though.
Based on these, it shows that trying to lose weight by adjusting the quantity of calories is pretty counter-productive.
Let's look at some people who intentionally try to fatten themselves. Massa tribe males eat an extra 1000 calories worth of milk and sugarcane. Japanese Sumo wrestlers eat a high carb, very low fat diet. Maybe it's the type of calorie that matters more than the quantity. The diets used to fatten farm animals are also high in carbs. Hmm, coincidence? Obese people tend to eat the same amount of calories, but a greater proportion of carbs. Another thing about high carb diets is that they're the only way humans get deficiency diseases; they happen usually when glucose gets crowded in a cell so it takes more of it to even be used in a cell. Deficiency diseases are usually carbohydrate wastage diseases.
(Hint: if you want to skip some boring sciency stuff, just read the last paragraph)
Hunger, satiety, and physical activity are physiologically regulated (not psychological). Imagine if people started attributing the hunger in diabetics as a psychological problem!
Most people think of fat as an inert storage medium; "like a garbage can.” Nope; fat tissue is dynamic and really kind of like a coin purse rather than a long-term savings account. Fattening is when the rate at which fat is deposited exceeds the rate it is mobilized (getting richer). Fat is controlled by hormones in the body, not by quantity of fatty acids in the blood. When fasting, fat provides 85% of energy and protein is converted to glucose (via gluconeogenesis) for the rest. Likewise, the presence of glucose or insulin (the only hormone behind storing fat) removes fatty acids from circulation; cells burn glucose first, fat second (e.g. having a credit card is more convenient than using cash).
The fat stored in adipose tissue is called a triglyceride (3 fatty acids on a glycerol backbone). Some trigs come from fat, the rest from carbs. Fat can only go past the cell membrane in the form of free fatty acids - trigs are too large and must be broken down first. In fat cells, trigs are continuously broken down into FFAs and recomposed into trigs. Fatty acids not immediately recomposed are sent into the bloodstream as fuel. The rest of FFAs are converted into trigs and loaded on VLDL (read: the super bad cholesterol) and shipped back to fat cells. Simple control mechanism: blood sugar. Glycerol phosphate is the result of burning glucose, and also happens to be the backbone of triglycerides. The rate of trig formation (fat deposition) depends on the availability of glyerol phosphate. So carbs = glucose = glycerol phosphate = trigs = fattening.
So hormones control the control mechanisms. Insulin stimulates transport of glucose to fat cells, thus controlling trig formation and fatness. Every single other hormone mobilize fat, but they can only do so if insulin is low. Virtually anything that increases insulin will decrease other hormones.
You heard of fructose? It gets turned into glycerol phosphate much more efficiently than glucose. It's the most fattening carbohydrate. Couple this with the fact that table sugar (sucrose) is one molecule of glucose with one of fructose, it's more than their sum since now glucose is increasing insulin with the higher triglycerides from fructose. Even worse? High Fructose Corn Syrup.
What I'm trying to say is that the only thing you should be monitoring when you're trying to lose weight is carbohydrates. Eat as much protein and fat (eat a whole stick of butter if you'd like) as you want. Avoid sugar and other carbohydrates. It's safe. Read the book Good Calories Bad Calories (or just the notes, which I pretty much copy-pasted: http://higher-thought.net/complete-notes-to-good-calories-ba...) for more info. That is all.
"The Diet Spreadsheet" by Jeremy Zawodny
i also would discourage the "skip dinner" plan. i think you'll find you'll have better results if you do eat SOMEthing for dinner. it could just be some of the low calorie foods he mentions, but just to have eaten something will be a bit better than not having eaten anything. don't want to kick your body into starvation response mode.
If you track your weight every day then you can try different eating schedules for a week or so and see which on works best. I know people who ate three small meals every day and lost weight easily, while I found that either one or two meals a day worked well as long as I ate at least 2200 Calories one day per week.
> But few people, an overwhelming body of research shows, achieve significant weight loss with exercise alone, not without changing their eating habits.
exercise alone is what is in question. but we aren't discussing exercise alone. we're discussing exercise within the context of a fairly major diet change.
If you find a way to do this, notify science.