I'm wrong? I've got into this conversation - about how the business climate here is actually excellent - at MetaLab, with MetaLab members, after viennajs more than once, and they sure didn't want to hear it.

And as for preaching to the choir, no. If I were only interested in preaching to the choir, why would I bother to create a fairly controversial conference?

After all, the "accepted" startup model is building, growing huge, and hoping for an acquisition, rather than charging.

But preaching to people who really don't want to hear it - that's another story, and a total waste of time.