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>any UI that requires clicking "start" to shutdown is in wastebin and rightfully so.

Citation needed. Windows 10 still requires this, they just don't label the button "start" any more (nor does any other UI I've seen in the last 10 years). Mechanically, it's basically the same.

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The win 10 is an all around mess and the typical user gets ads in their start menu.

It still has a few dialog from the nt4 era, some that use the snap-in nonsense, regedit is still a thing. Then for about half of what a typical user does they can use the nice pretty UI, as long as there are no unexpected errors.

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