Ask HN: Feedback on my web app please (BuyersVote.com)
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I'd also say it's due to the logo being the only color on the page (+1 for the monocolor comment), and the super huge font with no effects (add a shadow maybe?) and the word "best"
Feedback:
1) Is there a way to cross-post an item to multiple lists? There are many categories that are simply subsets of others, ie HP Pavilion 1234 might be in "Computers", "Desktop Computers", and "Gaming Machines." It would be nice to collate votes and comments from many sources too.
2) I agree with AlexMuir on the color scheme, and you already have an alternate color available on the home page in the orange. You've worked this color in on other pages but not on the homepage. I'd suggest using an orange-scheme for the list links since those are something you'd probably want to draw attention to anyway.
3) On the comments page, I tried to click the up/down arrows before realizing they were just symbols of how a user voted instead of a vote itself. To make it more clear, I'd suggest using a +1 or -1 icon there instead of a different colored arrow.
4) You may be able to fill in some blank lists and items by reading through Amazon metadata or the like. It takes alot less inertia to upvote something than it does to enter a list or item, so I think that makes it more likely to get user involvement.
Yep you nailed the exact same pain point I had. When I would sometimes do "best *" type searches on google before buying something, I'd get back crappy results with old forum posts or affiliate link filled ezine articles.
On adding an item to multiple lists, I thought about this but decided against it just because an item could have different ratings for different categories (iPhone is a great computer, not as good at making phone calls), and it would make the UI simpler.
Good feedback on the up/down voting. When you say Amazon metadata what are you referring to? Not familiar with that.
2) if users have the ability to add their own items to the list, you are going to need a way to monitor the lists for duplicates or items that are not specific enough - (example, iPhone) or items that are wrong (iPhone Blackberry). Since you are starting with a clean slate in terms of products, it will be most useful to you to ensure that the product names are kept as clean as possible, this will make it MUCH easier to integrate with a price service if you plan to monetize it that way in future.
3) I'm not sure what the 'revisions' button is supposed to do (not technically, I mean in terms of usefulness to the site). I was able to rollback someone else's review to a previous version.
4) Product lists can grow to be quite diverse and you will need a way to categorize the lists the same way that products are grouped into lists. For example, you may need an Electronics category where all PC's, cell phones and GPS's are listed. And futher on you may need to break the cell phone category into 'Smart Phones' and 'Cell Phones'. Advice for this is that if you do plan to monetize by connecting with a price service then map your categories to that of the price service because it will be easier to sync up your products later (unless they really don't match your categorization in which case you will need a way to match them up behind the scenes.)
5) Don't know how you would approach this one, but when I went to 'Blogs for Entrepeneurs' and clicked on 'Paul Grahams Blog' I could see that the response was positive so I would want to check out this blog. If I didn't know who Paul Graham was I would need to then google his name to find his blog. It would be nice for items like that if the person who creates the item could add some text or blurb about it. But I'm not sure how that would translate when adding an actual product that is not a blog.
Hope that was useful :) Good luck with it!
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Agreed, the naming and duplicates are an issue. I was planning on doing this like StackOverflow with a "did you mean?" type suggestion box, but haven't built it yet.
Yeah the revisions might be useful in a wiki way if people try to hack it, but aren't really right now.
For categorization - I thought about this but it kept making the UI more complicated to pick a category first. I was definitely trying to go for a Twitter-esque bare minimum approach and solve the overwhelming amount of data with search instead of categories (like wikipedia). I'm not sure yet if this will work though. And Google has yet to index all the pages so the Google custom search I have setup is not 100% functional yet.
On Paul Grahams blog, it does have a link to the "external site" at the top: http://buyersvote.com/items/paul-graham-s-blog-reviews But it's probably not that obvious. Thanks for the help!
Good luck, hope it works.
Anyway - thanks for the feedback. The hardest part right now has been getting critical mass. So we'll see what happens with it!