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No. The memo says:

"The same compassion for those seen as weak creates political correctness[11], which constrains discourse and is complacent to the extremely sensitive PC-authoritarians that use violence and shaming to advance their cause."

So it's not that "leftists are violent", it's PC that's complacent to violent PC-authoritarians that use violence and shaming. A bit different.

Again, I have the impression that parts of this debate could be avoided by accepting some of the caveats and distinctions already made in the memo.

Edit: replaced angry outburst with more civilized one.

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Would you please stop engaging in ideological flamewar on HN? I realize there has been a lot of this lately and it's not always clear where to draw the line, but you're definitely on the wrong side of it here.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15021984 and marked it off-topic.

He explicitly mentions 'cultural marxism', which is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory from the 60s.

Don't know where, certainly not in the memo.

In his Jordan Peterson interview he talks about it quite extensively.

In the footnotes, iirc

The concept and term "cultural marxism" has been grabbed by such a huge swath of people, most of whom have absolutely no idea it is or could be anti-Semitic (because you have to be pretty out there to associate Marxism with Jews to begin with), that claiming all or most uses of it are anti-Semitic is wrong.

There's just no way to paint that huge of a group with that brush unless you think it's so double-secret subconscious that the majority of the people using it don't even know they're anti-Semites.

Cultural Marxism has been explicitly anti-Semitic from the beginning, and early adherents argued that it was necessarily anti-Semitic. So people who believe in the conspiracy now are either anti-Semitic themselves, or profoundly ignorant. Neither one is a good look.

Or they've taken the term, misunderstanding it, perhaps, and redefined it to express ideas they actually have.

Whether those are good ideas is another topic.

This is a particularly ridiculous straw man because a good portion of the critics of cultural marxism are Jews.

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