China is considering shutting down local cryptocurrency exchanges
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(This is not the first time, nor the second time, nor the third time, that we've seen the news "china bans bitcoin" or "china cracks down on bitcoin".)
It only needs to crash once.
And as basically everyone knows but refuses to acknowledge, the liquidity limitations of all this speculation (i.e. there's nowhere near enough demand to buy up a dropping currency) mean that it'll crash all the way to zero when it does.
I'll grant you bitcoin is volatile and "dangerous". That's true before China "bans" bitcoin. But the question is "did China just ban bitcoin" and the answer is "most probably not".
Speculative investments have boom/bust cycles, they always will. Arguing that bitcoin is somehow immune is silly.
And, specific to bitcoin, when that crash happens it's going to be catastrophic. Daily-trade-to-capitalization ratio for bitcoin is literally 10x lower than it is for any other volatile security. When the owners start fleeing there will be no one to buy.
More details can be found here:
https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/906181802548539393
http://www.allcryptocurrencies.news/bitcoin/bitcoin-crash-of...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6yurbk/what_is_up_...
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6yutr2/am_i...
EDIT: Thanks for the downvotes! :)
EDIT - FWIW: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/viabtc-ceo-china-will-ban-bi...
> EDIT: Thanks for the downvotes!
Please don't do that—the site guidelines ask you not to: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
I predict this won't work.
Unless cryptocurrency starts being widely accepted, it'll be easy for governments to ban it and hard for people to acquire it.
The Yuan has none of the problems that would allow an alternative currency to really get going.
I suspect Chinese bitcoin usage is mostly a bunch mid-level party bureaucrats attempting to transfer wealth outside China so that they can buy tangible assets that can't be seized.
FWIW, BTCChina "has not received any new directives from Chinese regulators" https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/906181802548539393 OKCoin and Huobi also haven't got anything https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/906195967908601856
As I stated in a thread last week[1], this seems to be the most plausible move for them.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15176446
Don't think for a minute this is China trying to keep investors away from frauds/scams, it's about them making sure they can control capital flows.
• Original Caixin Report that sparked all this: http://finance.caixin.com/2017-09-08/101142797.html
• RECOMMENDED - Good English translation / interpretation of above article: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sNYGpwj3EKkRhlejoycytZLq...
• Shorter English announcement from Caixin: http://www.caixinglobal.com/2017-09-09/101142821.html
• Coindesk article pointing out Caixin has been spot-on in the past (re their Sep 2 leak regarding ICO fundraising): https://www.coindesk.com/report-casts-doubt-future-chinas-bi...
• Related official news out of China regarding ICO ban: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/6ywtkt/the_actua...
• Tweet from CEO of ViaBTC saying "China will shut down all exchanges": https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/viabtc-ceo-china-will-ban-bi...
I agree it's not the first time China's cracked down on virtual currency <--> fiat trading, but if true this could be more intense than their prior efforts.
Chinese capital controls are focused on people trying to move their money overseas. If they can't control a certain pathway, they'll rather shut it down completely.
On the other hand, high ranking officials might have alternative routes.
1. exchanges provide visibility into who is buying and selling crypto along with the ability to integrate crypto activities within real-name systems (i.e. whitelist wallets, etc.). This is the most efficient approach to market regulation as governments simply require exchanges to comply with policies and do not need to code the monitoring infrastructure themselves.
2. exchanges provide an infrastructure for supporting government initiatives -- the Chinese government is developing its own POW-based cryptocoin and has shown an interest in licensing ICOs and taxing transactions. And if China closes down all of the exchanges in the country it is a rather good question how it plans to accomplish either.
3. In the absence of a viable way to operate domestically, Chinese exchanges will simply move overseas (i.e. incorporate in HK), at which point they can continue to serve Chinese customers throughout the world without the need to bother with ANY Chinese policies (such as the elimination of zero-fee trades, KYC policies and data-sharing etc.).
What will happen in crypto is exactly the same thing that happened with video-sharing and group-sales: the government crackdown will be used to push uncooperative companies out of the market, and then licensing requirements will be used to tax those companies that remain while ensuring their compliance with the government fintech agenda. The current back-and-forth is part of an intra-government struggle for political primacy over cryptocurrency activities: the reason the big exchanges are silent is because they have their backers and are working to blunt the impact of these policies on their own businesses and the interests of those with whom they are affiliated. Smaller exchanges without this support are screwed and will close, but that is how China works -- it is not a market economy.