I talk to these people all the time. Them: "I KMOW stock XXX is going to be at price YYY in time Z." Me: "How much have you invested in stock XXX?" Them: "Oh nothing yet".

I think he means within the context of the Cryptocurrency market, which he is pretty correct on.

Many other coins have gone up 2x, 5x, even 10x in the last weeks/months.

Bitcoin going from 4K to 20K in 4 years (ie 5x) is relatively tame.

I see things this way as well.

Options and derivatives are risky. A merely volatile asset that never expires is pretty conservative in comparison.