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anandtech.com used to be an okay source, but it is getting worse pretty quick, non-sense article like this is helping anantech to get that position fast. threadripper 1950x is not the overall best workstation processor, it is more like a toy for kids into gaming/overclocking.

1950x is slow for multithreaded applications, it has a low cinebench score of ~3,000, you pay some serious $ for a fancy motherboard full of LED lights, then you don't have officially verified ECC support.

As a comparison, you get the same mutithreaded speed, much cheaper system cost if you just buy second hand dual 2696v2 processors with real ECC support. if you need real processing power in a single box and have a tight budget, there is a flood of E5-2696v4 processors on the market at $950-1,100 each. for a much nicer budget, you can always go dual/quad Intel 8180.

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Nice one, you compare second hand prices to brand new prices. Anandtech's goal is to guide you in the chip market buying it brand new, not hunting it on ebay. Also, what they say with the 1950x being the best compromise between number of PCIe lanes, processing power, maximum memory etc. If you didn't notive, performance is not their only criteria.

I listed dual/quad 8180 as a good option. I don't think you can get second hand 8180 on ebay.

For 1950x, details explanations were provided in my post -

1. too sloow, cinebench score is 3k, you can get it from 4-5 years old ancient processors already declared as EOL. 2. no official ECC support

I can list more actually - single socket system with 8 DIMMs only. As explained, it is a good platform for kids to game/overclock.

Sure, but as you say yourself, the 8180 isn't the same budget at all, so I excluded it from your price comparison. Also, it's not a competitor to the 1950x. I guess in the end it all depends on what you need to do. Your need seems to be maximum performance, why go for the best "compromise" CPU and then criticize their choice? Clearly you should go for either of the 3 recommended CPU for performance. (which are also better for PCIe lanes and memory, but have a poor performance price ratio).

if it is about budget, or performance per $, surely you'd be buying Xeon from ebay. you don't lose anything as the likelihood of having a dead processor 18 months from now is pretty much 0, no warranty required.

if it is about PCIE lanes, you should at least be buying dual socket systems, that gives you more PCIE lanes than 1950x.

if it is about memory, well, 1950x is limited to 8 DIMMs.

> 1950x is slow for multithreaded applications

Says who? The Intel marketing department?

According to a 21 years long term AMD user. Compared to my dual 2969v4's multithreaded performance, 1950x is sloooow. Please don't bother mentioning 2p EPYC, you simply can not order it and expect a reliable ETA, most models were released on paper.

what is your first AMD processor? mine was AM486DX4-120

http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=327 - you can order a 64 core Epyc workstation today.

yes, you can order today and the estimated ship date is 4 week from today. please double check the suggested web site.

as comparison, I can order a pair of 8180 processors, its mb and RAM now and expect the package to arrive in 12 hours.

Check out the intel workstations, they have similar ship dates. I believe the delay is because its a custom order.

DX4-120? Listen here, sonny, I'm not sure that first AMD CPU you had conveys authority to speak about today's multi-threaded performance. And this opinion comes from someone who's first AMD CPU was a DX2-66, so clearly I'm less wrong. :-D

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