I think you are in the minority on this. If the hacker community go too far in this direction don't be surprised if there are calls to reign it in with legislation.
I think you are in the minority on this. If the hacker community go too far in this direction don't be surprised if there are calls to reign it in with legislation.
There are few things more frustrating than dealing with a vendor that doesn't understand this.
On the other hand, if I find something while being paid to look then I must tell only the client and hope that they are responsible enough to disclose it instead of silently patching.
I don't these are minority views.
I think they do understand this very well; they just want to brainwash people into thinking it's a civic duty to do what they say. It's not. Ethical security researchers' responsibility is to the users, not to the vendors.
IANAL: And the prosc has to prove that you intend or effectively did both market/sell and that it was for illegal use - selling information about an exploit in e.g Chrome is quite different if you try to sell it to the Chrome developers.
only if your access to the vendor's systems wasn't precluded with an eula that you agreed to beforehand. I don't see company be stupid enough to not put in broad legal terms in the eula to prohibit this sort of penetration.
But if you weren't given permission first (which may involve said eula) then that must mean you're accessing without permission - which is illegal.
they have the option - and some chose not to sue for either PR reasons and/or unlikely to recoupe anything from a researcher anyway, so rather not spend the cost.
Now, people that try to legislate community norms - outside of obvious cases like prohibiting murder - usually make things worse. But ignoring community norms is also not a smart thing to do.