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Yep, Clojure made some nice improvements (still 4 parens, however), but I just can't get excited about the JVM.

The JVM does solve the distribution problem that's heavily frustrated me with other platforms.

I can create a great tool in Ruby for example, but asking a computer illiterate to run it in Windows isn't going to happen.

You can however hand that person a .jar from Clojure and ask them to run it.

Assuming they have Java installed. Which, in my experience, is less and less likely as time goes on, for random samplings of non-developer Windows boxes.

Not anymore! Java now can link JVM, runtime, and your own modules into a bundle that just works and runs everywhere.

On Linux, you’re even able to compile most of it into a single binary.

Good to know. Does it tree-shake to cut down irrelevant stuff out of thefinal package?

That’s exactly why Jigsaw and jlink were so important, because they provide exactly that.

> (still 4 parens, however)

My example has 2 parens.

Even if you're not excited about the JVM, ClojureScript is particularly productive for front end development, where I genuinely love it tremendously.

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