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The side supporting "yes" perpetrates equal amounts of violence. Is just the propaganda machine is much more developed on that side (with the money from all Spaniards...)

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I’m not there, so I can’t say for sure, but those I know in Catalonia have been pretty clear that this isn’t the case.

The side supporting "yes" perpetrates equal amounts of violence.

Really? I didn't see the footage of the Mossos throwing people who weren't in favour of independence down stairs or dragging them around by their hair. Where do I find it?

Is just the propaganda machine is much more developed on that side

Thus supporting the case that Catalonia is being dragged down by Spain - even their propaganda machines are better! :D

Thank you for polarizing into "better and worse" humans.

It's called a joke. I'm a descendant of Galicians myself.

No times for jokes when the whole country is a mess due to a nationalist movement.

This breaks the HN guidelines. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I apologize for my interpretation and response. It wouldn't be the first time that I read or hear comments of Catalans being superior to the rest of the Spanish.

Show examples.

https://spanishpolice.github.io/

As I said, the propaganda machine is more developed in one side. The story is related by those who have a stronger interest. I've indeed seen videos of violence against those who don't think like the independentist. And I've lived in the region for 6 years, there are many other forms of violence as well. But you can look it up on the internet. You won't find a web index with hundreds of videos though, that doesn't surprise me.

"I've indeed seen videos of violence against those who don't think like the independentist."

Do you have any links to specific videos?

Interesting that this page title is "Videos of the Repression lived in Catalonia by the Spanish Police" while the video shows in most cases professional work of the force, especially considering the behavior of crowd. I don't want to take any sides, but know this - crowd plus emotions might turn into something dangerous. We should put emotions aside and then consider the situation. I am not telling that what happened was good, but sometimes you must choose the lesser eveil.

Source?

You can keep downvoting me for thinking differently from what is seen is media. No, I admit it, there was shameful violence that day. But there is also daily violence against those who think differently and don't support the nationalist and xenophobic ideas behind the independentist movements. Of course, that's not admitted openly.

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