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I bought this up on HN in the past[1], but it gets instantly downvoted( by gitlab employees?) , my comment was a response to CEO claiming how their marketing is honest[2].

They also declared Gitlab CI as number one CI by excluding Jenkins because of their made up defintion of "modern" .

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15590240 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15589654

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This whole thread is full of their employees arguing (quite aggressively in some cases) with people for calling them out or questioning their marketing claims. I wouldn't be surprised if they're downvoting en-masse too. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in their company and I'm surprised this type of behaviour is allowed on HN.

You are most likely getting downvoted because of statements such as:

    > These guys are not honest people, just copycats under the guise of "open".

You are right. Thats how i felt but that was unnecessary to say here. Deleted that from my comment.

Last time I checked Jenkins is a modern CI product.

Depends on your definition of modern. I don't really care what you call it, the fact of the matter is that it's slow and an inferior product.

Its not relevant here if its inferior or not. Not counting your competition and declaring yourself as no.1 is dishonest.

I get that. But most likely, that whole spin is the marketing dept's fault. As I said in another comment, they are not technical enough to understand CI/CD and devops terminology.

They are technical enough to evaluate Jenkins and declare it be not worthy enough to be counted as competition, but not technical enough to understand CI/CD.

Seriously?

One thing that is not modern: Having such an idiotic workflow that one engineer can cause a huge outage and delete stuff from prod db.

I understand that too. But in my experience, GitLab CI Runner is the fastest for our stack. I've seen build times reduced from 3 minutes to 59 seconds. I can give exact numbers if you want to scrutinize my statement more.

Edit: I should add, our build artficats are deployed to staging and NOT production.

I don't have a problem believing that Gitlab could be faster for an org's stack, at all.

I do have a problem with you implying Jenkins is not-modern by saying "depends on your definition of modern". Speed is only one factor. It's not ok to lie and hide behind "our marketing is clueless about our tech."

To be completely honest, Jenkins is garbage slow enterprise tier. GitLab CI Runner is a pleasure to work with. Jenkins was hosted on our production box, and it used to freeze up whenever someone pushed.

Marketing folks aren't technical enough to understand CI anyway. This is why marketing folks shouldn't step on us tech folks toes - you'll just look like an idiot and end up embarrassing yourself.

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