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I don't understand why Apple removed iTunes U from the Mac iTunes Store. Not everybody has an iPad to use alongside their Mac while working through this series.

What's more annoying is I can browse all the content on iTunes on the Mac but if I click on anything it takes me to a Safari page which says '.. only available on iPhone and iPad'. Why?

Some suggest that it will be back and right now they are decluttering iTunes and it'll be broken into multiple apps. I'm not too hopeful.

Yea, silly move, from other aspects also.

Hence, you can detach from the update train with this version:

https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT208079

Also consider Apple's "Start Developing iOS Apps (Swift)" tutorial. That's how I got started on Swift and Xcode.

https://developer.apple.com/library/content/referencelibrary...

Wow, delivering videos via an app.. This is so hostile. Why would somebody do it this way and not publish on some video site like vimeo or omg coursera, khan academy etc?

I think the problem with those sites it's that they have some kind of profit. Either by hosting ads or by selling some certificate, where iTunes U really offers the course for "free" on compatible platforms. Maybe this is the focus of Standford

And Apple wants to sell iPads or else why would this site not even support Macs.

Khan academy was non-profit I thought and ad-free. But I get what you are saying, haven't thought about that.

I worked through a previous version of this series and it’s a great way to get started on the platform!

Any way to access this without an iPad or iPhone?

I found the first 4 lectures on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9IXfYHhKYI&list=PL_l7vS8VbN...

you can’t effectively make ios apps without one of those things...

True, but it's ridiculously hostile to restrict access to free, public videos in such a way...

What if I want to just check things out because I might be interested? Should I buy an iPhone on the off-chance that I find things interesting and might want to develop something later? Sheesh.

The videos are only public because the creators chose to do that. Why is it "hostile" of them to choose a distribution mechanism relevant to the material? Why do you feel you have a right to demand they distribute this content -- which they made available for free -- in a manner you prefer?

One can just ask the same questions reversed

Yes, but they would make no sense.

It's "hostile" because uploading to Youtube or Vimeo is just as much effort, if not less, than what they're doing.

So it was a conscious choice to do what they did, in order to limit distribution. It's the same kind of control-freak, developer hostile attitude that Apple has in general regarding its development tools: total lock-in. Compare with Android in this regard.

> Should I buy an iPhone

Yes.

You might be interested in developing for iOS but don’t have an iOS device? Not even an AppleTV or Mac, both of which play itunesU content?

Apple wants to still promote iTunesU, which offers a better user experience for learning content than Vimeo or YouTube. I don’t think they do, or should, worry about the 1% who want to watch and don’t have iOS devices.

I haven't really looked at this but I do have a general dislike that this is an app/something on iTunes. I find it somewhat strange that when opening it on my iPhone SE the description is unrendered HTML: https://imgur.com/a/miJXw

That’s a lot to ask of Stanford University.

that gave me a good chuckle, thanks, I needed that today.

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