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I'm not talking about supplying the money. I'm talking about being given something. If there was a Ubi system you presumably wouldn't be able to stop paying taxes for it just because you didn't want to receive the payment, so in that case why would you be upset about receiving the payment

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If someone takes $20 from you so that they can give you back $10, why would you be grateful? You don't get to separate the taking from the giving.

Again, I feel like we're talking past each other. The way I interpreted OP was him saying he didn't want the UBI payment if there was UBI implemented. If UBI is implemented you don't just get to opt out as that gets rid one of the major benefits of the system which is low administrative costs. The OP may not have meant his statement the way I interpreted it, but my interpretation of it definitely separated the taking from the giving

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