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In my limited trials it was not terribly performant, running at 15fps or so only.

I would consider that pretty performant for a task such as this on a phone.

Compared to non-DNN techniques? I don’t have concrete numbers but I’m pretty sure “classical” techniques can do this with much higher throughput.

With equal accuracy?

If the non-NN techniques are faster, but the NN techniques are more accurate, couldn't they be combined to provide both speed and accuracy?

Use the NN to find the faces, and the non-NN to track faces once the NN has found them, and use the NN to periodically check to see that the non-NN is still locked on.

Does that work? A NN might detect half a face, but then how do you switch over to the "find two dots" technique when there's only one eye? This seems susceptible to a lot of flapping.

I'd expect that the non-NN part would be more of a "track movement of this arbitrary blob" thing rather than a "track movement of this face" thing.

Suppose the NN is only 25% of the speed you need to support the frame rate you want. Then every time you get a new face blob list from the NN, the non-NN tracker would to track the blobs for 3 frames. My guess is that in most common photography situations where you need face detection, faces won't move very far or won't change orientation or lighting very much in 3 frames.

On what device? The A11 chip is far more performant than previous gens.

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