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At that time, I wonder if there was any technology actually identifiying the song, or if it was a big mechanical turk sort of operation.

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According to Shazam Paper[1] (I can't find publication date), there were nothing fancy, just keypoints extraction on spectrogram. No deep learning with 100 layers or something like that which wouldn't be possible in 2000.

[1] https://www.ee.columbia.edu/~dpwe/papers/Wang03-shazam.pdf

It's just an easier form of speech recognition. That was plenty advanced in 2002.

(Here is Shazam in a chip from 1988:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFth9K_IvwA

Now imagine you have a magnitude better signal fidelity and 10e8 times the storage and processing power)

Pretty sure they had the algorithm first.

https://youtu.be/xm4mDO4XGIE

Amazon's Mechanical Turk service launched in 2005.

The notion of a "mechanical turk" however, and of operations putting a facade on humans doing the work -- to which the parent alluded to ("a big mechanical turk sort of operation") and not specifically Amazon's variety , has been known and used for centuries.

The concept of the "Mechanical Turk" has been around for over 200 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turk

It's pretty obvious what GP meant. The concept of crowd-sourcing small chunks of work as a service is not the same thing as a hoax which involved a single person masquerading as an automaton. Amazon chose a clever name for its service that is memorable and references humans fronted by machines.

Asserting otherwise is an example of the etymological fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy.

Ehh, I have seen references to using a person instead of an algorithm before Amazon released their service. Basically, if your automating human dexterity it's robotics, if your automating the brain it's AI. Sorting vegetables being a useful early example where humans could be thought of as a replaceable black box if you can break down what they are specifically doing. Thus Machine vision and classification where two common tasks because you need to play any game not simply replay a specific one.

The term "mechanical turk" has been used to describe "fake AI" since before Amazon Mechanical Turk was released.

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