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Comment by exabrial | Hacker News Reader

Look I'm not an expert, but maybe if they stopped adding useless features and they end "The War on Ports" they'd be doing better. Right now their sales are driven by hype (and I guess an iMessage monopoly), not quality or value.

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The iMessage monopoly is actually a good point.

I switched to a PC for quality/value reasons recently after waiting too long for update to Mac Pro.

Everyday I hate that I don't have iMessage on this machine. And my phone is constantly propped up against my screen so I can stay connected to my text messages.

I had no idea how much this would effect me and if I can find a third party solution that connects me to iMessage I will probably be switching back soon.

One of the features of iMessages is that they're encrypted and can't be unencrypted by anyone but the Apple-authenticated recipient. This has the downside that the only way to access those messages on non-Apple devices is to create some kind of man-in-the-middle attack.

Unless Macs have a secure enclave I don't think there's anything about that encryption that requires Apple devices.

(offtopic) go threema...

Or stop using iMessage on your phone too?

It really saddens me that it that the more times go by, the more fragmented the messaging ecosystem gets.

I just want a secure messaging solution that I can use with anybody, regardless of what device/service they use.

We get it -- you're not an expert.

Please don't post uncivil or unsubstantive comments, regardless of how wrong someone else is. The 'economics' of that are backwards in that it damages the container more than any value it contributes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

customer satisfaction is what drives their sales, more than advertising/hype: not everyone is satisfied though the fraction which is satisfied tends to compound, evidently. The fraction which is not satisfied tends to complain and take their business elsewhere, which is good for all.

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