Ok, now I get where you're going. x and y share the same type, just like 'int x, y' in C. That's what happens when you try to explain two concepts at the same time, my mistake. You have a point with the years, I'll add an alias for now. That is the goal; I'm kind of depending on people chipping in to be able to keep up the pace though, I had a nice runway set up for xmas but now the pressure is on again.