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I actually want it the other way around. I want those Tab to be loaded in lowest priority, once they are finished rendering, pause it for eternity until i switch back to it.

So I literally want a snapshot of it staying there. This way when i switch to it, it should be close to instantaneous.

I have been thinking of another Idea, when unread tabs reach a large number, these tabs were once opened, but inactive or not touched for a period of time because i didn't have time to read it yet, should automatically move off to another Window. And this Window should be designed to have Tabs on the side, and some other changes making it more of a reading session rather then browsing / surfing session.

Why not bookmark it or Pocket it, because these action will simply means i will never touch them again or I forget about it.

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I use tab suspender with a 10 minute timeout and tree style tabs. It's amazing. I usually have over 100 tabs open, and I can collapse the tree branches I'm not using and only 10 or so tabs will actually be using resources. Performance is night and day compared to before I started using suspender. It's not everything I want though; I too feel the need for something in between a tab and a bookmark and it's frustrating that there aren't any options. I'm considering building one myself but I already have a dozen other projects that are more exciting than browser tab management.

Tab Suspender Doesn't always accurate reload my tab. Another problem is I want may be at least a Jpeg of the Webpage, not a Tab Suspended Web Page notice.

Tree Style Tabs Doesn't work for me, I tried it a number of times, in theory it should, in practice it is a little over complicated. Tab List so far is working great for me. As of writing I have 260 Tabs opened, thanks to CES.

> Another problem is I want may be at least a Jpeg of the Webpage, not a Tab Suspended Web Page notice.

You can enable "screen capturing" in Suspender for that.

We are talking about this extension right here, correct?

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-suspender-ta...

Because I can not find such an option in its settings.

Ah my bad I'm using the Chrome version, maybe it doesn't exist yet on Firefox.

For the latter part of your comment, have you tried tree-style tabs? Instead of moving tabs around you could collapse a tree of tabs to look at later.

This sort of sounds like Tab Groups, but tabs only get offloaded if you close and reopen your browser with that feature. The end result is if you accumulate a lot of tabs, they don't affect performance unless you've looked at them recently (e.g., since you opened the browser).

"Why not bookmark it or Pocket it, because these action will simply means i will never touch them again or I forget about it."

My view is those pages don't actually matter to you, they're irrelevant and you won't actually miss them.

A common response.

As a reluctant user of tree style tabs (holding out for the restoration of tab groups), I disagree.

I usually have different sets of tabs open:

  - A set for each of the 2-3 projects I have active this month
  - Casual browsing
  - Read later
  - Do later

This adds up easily to one or two hundred tabs -- and these aren't bookmarks. Bookmarks aren't gone when you close the tab, which is the desired behavior for all the above cases.

Pocket or similar (ignoring my refusal to use a 3rdParty service for my own data) would only be useful for do-later and read-later.

With tab groups I had a perfect setup which supported /all/ my use cases in one go. With TST I can roughly approximate this with a top-level tab for each (it's not great).

Bookmarks need to be replaced with something that covers a wider range of use-cases without having to cobble together a bunch of different workflows.

People know about bookmarks and pocket. Most people who are actively searching out extensions are not avoiding learning a different workflow (obvious if you think about it). I've gone through many different workflows, and I'll keep testing out more. Tab groups was the best thing yet for me.

I know it seems like all of those things are important to you, but they really aren't.

They're mostly just passing momentary fascinations, so either act on them or let them go. If something actually is important, you'll come across it again, or simply remember it.

I struggled for years with tons and tons of unread tabs, forgotten bookmarks, endless unstarted projects, hundreds of unwatched movies, unlistened albums. Learning to just let them go was the best thing that ever happened to me. The important stuff tends to stick around in memory, all by itself.

As a small part of that, I've instituted a "24 hour minimum" rule. If I see something I like, I add it to the shopping basket or save it in some other way that's not immediately visible when I'm on my PC or phone. Then I wait at least 24 hours. If I still desire that item after the waiting period has passed, I'll consider buying it. It has saved me so much money, and helped me avoid a ton of junk that would otherwise just be taking up space in my home.

Keeping too much stuff "active" is stressful as hell, and it's wonderful to be able to just not care about it.

I see your point, and it looks like I replied to the wrong person. Your points likely apply to my read-later and do-later groups. (I might argue, but should probably take it to heart first).

My point about bookmarks and pocket not filling my use-case (even if I dropped read/do later) stands -- I really do want multiple switchable tab contexts.

This is how I browse HN:

    - middle-click on a bunch of links from the front page
        - pick a tab to read
        - lather, rinse, repeat
     - get interrupted, leave some tabs lying around unread or to comment on later
     - lather, rinse, repeat

Don't tell me which tabs I care about.

Correct, bookmarks/pocket are not a good UI for this.

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