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This is handy. But it would be far more handy to show _exactly_ where the cursor goes. Moving left-ward puts the cursor at the beginning of the word. Moving right-ward puts the cursor one-past-the-end of the word, not at the last letter as is depicted in the diagram.

Anyway, it's far more intuitive to use arrow keys with modifiers:

* control + left-arrow = alt + b

* control + right-arrow = alt + f

* alt + backspace = control + w

I get super upset (pet peeve) when programs don't support word navigation like this.

What I would like would be for someone to build a web app which allows you to select what modifiers you want for each of the shortcuts, and then has a button which would generate configuration files for various programs (vim, emacs, tmux, gnome-terminal, etc) that you can download or copy/paste. That would be grand.

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In my inputrc, for the alt-backspace example:

### Line cuts will be remapped to cmd-remove in OSX, shift-remove in Linux

## OSX: Remap with ControllerMate Cmd+Delete to Ctrl-k

"\e[3;2~": kill-line

## OSX: Remap with Controllermate Cmd+Backspace to Ctrl-u

"\e[9;2~": backward-kill-line

### Word cuts will be remapped to opt-remove in OSX, alt-remove in Linux

## OSX: Remap Alt+Delete with ControllerMate to Ctrl-w

"\e[3;3~": kill-word

## OSX: Remap Alt+Backspace with ControllerMate to Esc-d

"\e[9;3~": backward-kill-word

Arrow keys are slower than letters, since you have to move your hand.

Not all keyboards are laid out the same.

There's no value in nitpicking. 99% of keyboards are standard qwerty.

And 100% of those keyboards can have simple keys remapped

What does that have to do with anything? The claim is that arrow keys are more intuitive keybindings. If you're remapping keys, then the familiarity of keys is irrelevant.

i don't have to move my hand any further than i would to press ctrl/alt

Yes, you would. Ctrl/alt are within finger range. The arrow keys aren't.

There’s a lot of research in this area. One of the most consistent results of this research is “people don’t feel like moving their hands (off the home row, over to the arrow keys, over to the editing keys, etc) is slower, even though it is slower”. For most people, the feel is more important than the speed.

In other words, this argument topic usually doesn’t end reasonably for either side. :-)

P.S. For extra fun, look up the mouse-vs.-hotkeys discussion. My favorite example is in the research paper for Plan 9’s Acme & 8½ ui.

Again, different keyboards, even QWERTY keyboards, have different layouts. Look at laptops... no single brand has the same keyboard layout for each year's model. It's really f!@#$ing annoying actually.

For example?

Go to any computer store and look at keyboards.

Alt+B is not exactly home row friendly (should i use my thumb or ring finger for alt?), and especially switching quickly between Alt+B, Ctrl+F and Alt+F (pinky on ctrl, ring/thumb on alt, long on F and index on B??!) which is one of the most common navigation you do when you want to correct the misspelling of 6 words left and 3 characters forward, then 1 character left again because you accidentally moved 4 characters right instead of 3. Ctrl+Left and then right/left arrow is much easier, more intuitive and works everywhere else, not just linux terminal. Adding shift for selecting while navigating is also super easy. Left/right arrows also have the benefit of being close to up/down arrows which are very useful in multi line inputs.

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