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Are there plans to implement the ssb protocol in a language other than JS?

I actually started working on a Python implementation last year. I have a fully working implementation of the Secret Handshake protocol:

https://github.com/pferreir/pysecrethandshake

I've also implemented packet-stream on top of it (and intend to produce a proof of concept client at some point):

https://github.com/pferreir/pyssb

My time got diverted into other things, but if someone wants to help out, feel free to contact me on SSB (ub|k) or Twitter (@pferreir).

There's someone working on a rust implementation at the moment. I can't find a link to the repository just now, but there's plenty of threads on it if you search 'rust' at the top right of patchwork (after installing and adding a pub.)

I'll find the repo and reply to this thread when I'm home later :)

There were some previous efforts towards a Go implementation, but I'm not sure how far along they got: https://github.com/maackle/ssb-igo

By the way, there's some beautiful protocol docs for scuttlebutt here: https://ssbc.github.io/scuttlebutt-protocol-guide/ =]

just noticed that the go implementation you linked to [https://github.com/maackle/ssb-igo] is actually "the game of Go on ssb"

Haha, woops! I meant https://github.com/andyleap/go-ssb

I guess it was muscle memory since I was looking at the ssb-igo repo earlier.

A great game, a programming language, and the 49th most common word in the English language walk into a bar...

Thanks, I really like the core ideas of ssb but the nodejs implementation and lack of a security review give me a lot of professional reservations. I'm inclined to fork and use a more off the shelf method of securing p2p connections. The practice of binding a "secure" web-server to localhost is also a bit [dubious](https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/86773/how-secur...).

What's your reservations about it being implemented in nodejs? It's not my favourite technology stack either (I much prefer scala / haskell), but it hasn't deterred me from using it or contributing to the project.

I wonder if a security review is something that can be funded through the open collective that is being set up (https://opencollective.com/secure-scuttlebutt-consortium ) or some other funding source.

By the way, the repositories that I mentioned earlier for the Rust implementation of the protocol in progress are mostly here:

https://github.com/AljoschaMeyer?tab=repositories

I have issues with js as a language but those are not security issues. My security-related issues are with the nodejs package infrastructure.

https://www.csoonline.com/article/3214624/security/malicious... The sprawling dependencies alongside potential security/breaking issues are huge. It is a large and vulnerable attack surface.

Fair play!

Some of the code you might be interested is _in_ scuttlebutt, as in there's a git implementation that lives in this p2p database / network. It's called git-ssb, and it has a github like interface.

https://github.com/clehner/git-ssb Here's a window into this p2p land : https://git.scuttlebot.io/ go gentle on it, it's a little server

Welcome to the cloud proper

there's also hosting of node modules over ssb :)

in addition to the already mentioned Rust implementation that's currently being worked on, i believe someone has already gotten some of the core functionality working in Red http://www.red-lang.org/

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