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You may want to check out Fable[0] for F# if you haven't already. Syntax will be very familiar, and the interop[1] with JS is really great. There is also a tool to create bindings from Typescript declaration files[2].

[0] http://fable.io/

[1] http://fable.io/docs/interacting.html

[2] https://www.npmjs.com/package/ts2fable

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Generally when it comes to interoperability with JS the problem stems from assumptions made by the people designing the JS APIs and what is idiomatic in the compiles-to-js Lang. Clojurescript, Reason, Purescript, and Elm all have a specific way they want to work and the browser APIs go against that.

If anyone has any advice on how to help this I am all ears but writing garbage interop code gets old.

I came to this conclusion over the weekend. Really wanted to use one of those compile to JS languages, but after doing some interop and looking at their output, you're fighting the browser. Even Clojurescript, which is supposed to have has great code elimination will produce much bigger outputs then regular JS.

One way to look at it is immutable.js minified is 55 KB. That's about 5,000 lines of JS. If you're using a functional language, you've gotta bring along those immutable datastructures somehow, and 5k lines of Clojure is gonna output greater than 5k lines of JS.

Keep a watch for the new Reason standard library, it will bring some stunning reductions in output code size. I mean, right now the output code size is about as minimal as you can get while looking like hand-written JS ... but what's coming might blow all the other immutable libs out of the water thanks to optimisations it can do using static typing information.

don't forget Clojurescript employs Google Closure compiler that has the best in the market dead-code elimination. Code on prod can be pretty small.

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