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please, that’s not what this is about.

this is an issue of individual liberty, and the freedom from oppression/being forced to live under someone else’s rules.

these are desirable qualities for any self aware individual. no human, chinese or otherwise, wants to live without this concept of freedom.

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I understand and I agree with you on that matter. But do you think that west is not part of that oppression by imposing sanction of various countries and resulting in degraded quality of life ? Don't you think they armed rebels that resulted in much chaos and death and inhumanity ? If someone is dead there is no talk of humanity and liberty. Liberty starts with peace. I understand that there are certain area where China and other countries can improve but other countries should not use that as pretext for their political and economical agenda. And indeed there is much more lot space and areas for west has to workout given they have made such tremendous scientific and economical development.West's actions don't reflect their achievements.

And another point is liberty given by democracy is useless if that does not translates to wishes of the populace and that is happening right now in West and US. Its there but has no effect

i think you’re missing my point - i am not the west, i don’t like the way things are unfolding in “the west”. i’m not trying to say the west is better, or right. all i am saying is this - china is wrong.

Nor I am trying to say that China is right ! But building narrative based on half-cooked idea that some country thinks works for her should also work for whole humanity is insane.(that is directed at main article not you sorry)

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