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Yes, but please Apple, improvements only! Do not touch the headphone jack or the fingerprint reader!

This. I love my SE, and if SE2 is a micro X, I'll probably finally move away from Apple. I really don't want a face-id or imaginary home button.

Face-ID is great, and there's no 'imaginary home button' - the entire interface has been redesigned around not needing a home button.

I'm not pleased with the security aspect of face id though. I get that touch id is not highly secure either, but I'm more confident in it and it does not require looking at a phone to unlock.

Is the SE an iPhone 6 or 7? I'm going to get a new phone in a week or so and didn't even know about the SE.

Its a 6 in a 5's body. It was released 5-6 months before the 7 irrc.

It's a 6s, actually, without the larger screen, faster Touch ID, 3D Touch, and barometer.

It doesn't have 3d touch.

Yeah, that's what I said. It's missing 3D Touch along with all those other things.

It is much of the internal hardware of an iPhone 6S (A9 processor, 12MP rear camera) in the case of an iPhone 5.

Well that's a bummer. I'd like a phone that's going to be updated for at least 2 and hopefully 3 years. If it's already from the 6S generation I'm not too confident in it getting patched for the next 3 years.

Unlike Android manufacturers, Apple has a good track record of supporting older hardware. I have a 5S which was released nearly 5 years ago and is still receiving updates.

Older hardware? The first SE was released less than 2 years ago and there was an update last year that added more storage.

It’s still a very speedy phone.

Right and that's my point. Apple is good at this, but Android manufactures aren't. Typically you are lucky to get 3 years of updates. Some new phones, like the Razer Phone, don't even come with the latest version of Android.

I have an iPad SE (i.e., cheaper 2017 non-Pro iPad) and it's great. I've only ever heard good things about the iPhone SE.

I hope they update the SE and keep the form factor (or have 2 factors).

An updated SE is about due -- if you put any credence in macrumors' buying guide anyway.

They increased storage a year ago, when I bought one, and a price decrease late last year, so the timeline seems reasonable.

I really like the SE size, so I did a bit of searching to see what rumors are out there. Most seemed to suggest the update will be this fall and I don't really want to wait until then. One analyst claimed that wireless charging would be added to it and that seems plausible.

I'll probably get an iPhone 8 and it will be my first iPhone.

I would be very surprised if they update the SE at any point, Apple can barely pay attention to their mainstream products.

> Apple can barely pay attention to their mainstream products

What do you mean by this? Are you saying that Apple doesn't care about iPhone?

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