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Lisbon? I've heard only horror stories about the rent/salary ratio. Portuguese emigrate in volumes comparable to Poles/Romanians and there is a reason for this.

Krakow? If you fancy working at the complete bottom of the corporate hierarchy at IBM/Capgemini/Accenture/etc, or for some Scandinavian/German cheapskates. Rents went through the roof as well.

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I think you're too harsh. Akamai, Oracle, Samsung, UBS, HSBC and plenty of other well-known companies have R&D centres in Krakow. Even Google had been there but their office was merged with the Warsaw one a few years ago. Obviously, if you're an aspiring manager you'd be better off working in the corporate HQ but from a developer's POV it's a decent city to work.

Rent is Lisbon is getting very expensive and salaries don't closely follow that trend. However, the article is right about many corporations coming here to setup global shared services for operations and support desks.

> Portuguese emigrate in volumes comparable to Poles/Romanians and there is a reason for this.

This used to be the case up until a few years ago but having spoken with many young Portuguese there's a serious resurgence of tech and arts scenes.

There is, but since I live abroad the community on my region has been increasing quite a lot in the last 10 years, with very few willing to return.

Tech salaries are getting bimodal, If you are on the right (pun intended) side of the curve you will be fine. you will end up working for a foreign company or remoting.

I do hope rent goes down, it's fugly to see working class people being driven out of the city...

In term Rent/Salary ratio how it looks? In US it could be as much as 1/2 or more common 1/3 for a 2 bedroom residence.

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