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Arguably he's probably there with Newton, Sagan, Darwin and Einstein

I guess that a man that was self-declared atheist would not appreciate the religious concept of "all good people go to heaven when die". I can understand that is a comforting social convention in any case.

In before or instead of Sagan possibly? I was not particularly aware of Sagan before the internet, whereas I imagine Hawking has been a household name in much of the world for decades?

Shouldn't downvote this. Carl Sagan is nowhere as famous as the other three, probably except the US.

Sagan is a special case. Will be remembered (mainly) as a very good science communicator. Not so many people connect it with a famous and top-class scientist woman. The work of his first wife, Lynn Margulis, changed forever the concept of evolution.

If we put Sagan with Darwin we should not forget to add Margulis to this list also.

My rule of thumb is whether or not you get your name attached to some physical phenomena. ie: Newtonian Physics, Hawking Radiation, etc.

That's a fair yardstick

> Not so many people connect it

I wanted to say: connect him, obviously

Aside: My first encounter with Margulis’s Serial Endosymbiosis Theory blew my mind.

I’d go so far as to say that SET changed my worldview. I’d always looked at evolution solely through the cold, brütal lens of selective pressure and competition.

SET showed us, however, that symbiosis (i.e. fundamental cooperation) is right up there with competition... kind of a countervailing force within the story of evolution.

I don’t know why, but I take great emotional comfort in that. Perhaps, being non-religious, it allows me to see something humane(?) encoded in the rulesets that govern change.

Although Sagan was a great educator, Maxwell and Feynman deserve much more credit than him.

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