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Comment by kaolti | Hacker News Reader

I don't think anyone is saying they are irrelevant, nothing is black and white. For practical purposes however, hard work does lead to success.

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I can think of plenty of people who work way harder than me, and have clearly no path to ever being successful (financially).

You've never known a hard-working person who wasn't successful?

It's moreso that the inverse is true. Not working hard will almost certainly not lead to success (unless your family is rich enough to where you can just "buy" more success). Working hard will not necessarily lead to success, but it's a prerequisite. The amount of work required also depends on what obstacles you're born with and degree of success is desired

I’ve never worked hard in my life and I earn more than my (hard working) parents combined

Careful when making that statement that you don't fall into the trap of believing that only physical labor counts as "hard work".

Front-end engineers who build widgets in React can make a $120,000 salary if they market themselves correctly.

Not all software work is hard work.

I'm going to say most of it that gets paid decently is. You might easily get $120k in the Bay Area, but that's nowhere near a good salary for there.

How would they go about marketing themselves correctly?

Thanks, that's what I was trying to say lol.

I don't think anyone is arguing that there aren't any other factors or that this justifies not helping less fortunate people.

Except for when it doesn't, which is the point.

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