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Choice 1: Burn lots and lots of coal + Fischer Tropsch + electric vehicles.

Choice 2: Thorium reactors + electric vehicles.

That's about it.

BTW, The "Peak Oil Community" are 5% oil and gas industry people, and 5% energy policy wonk want-to-bes.

The rest are radical environmentalists eagerly anticipating the ecological-Malthusian-doom rapture (see dieoff.org, etc) and are not interested in practical solutions and are just sitting in front of their computers waiting to be raptured up into their ecological-hand-tools-subsistence-agriculture wonderland.

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> are not interested in practical solutions

but it's us stinky hippies that bang on the loudest and for the longest about sustainable transport solutions, renewable energy and sustainable population. (~>_aside form nuclear energy_<~) where do you draw that stereotype from?

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I have a Prius. I also support massive expansion of nuclear energy, just like Stewart Brand (of the Whole Earth catalog) and David McKay (British physicist). Caring for the environment doesn't mean forgetting physics. In addition, if we're talking TCO, many more people have been killed in oil wars than nuclear disasters...

> but it's us stinky hippies that bang on the loudest and for the longest about sustainable transport solutions, renewable energy and sustainable population.

Nope. Wasn't the "stinky hippies" the groups that consistently protested against nuclear power? Being anti-nuclear power in the 70ies and 80ies was the bandwagon for the far left (now it is global warming).

No way dude, the stinky hippies only complain, they don't offer solutions. So yeah re-reading your comment, maybe you're right, but it's hardly the morally position they/you always claim it is.

Environmentalists in Europe have been known to protest expansion of high speed rail. Not sure if this is a common view or not.

hm didn't know that, guess it all depends where the line runs if you are going to make a serious environmental case vs's NIMBY.

fwiw the greens just got us a feasibility study for australias first high speed line (under the world 4th busiest flight corridor) but i'm sure i'll be a very old man b4 anything comes of it

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