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Comment by mrb | Hacker News Reader

Wonder how much it cost Cloudflare to buy 1.1.1.0/8 from China Telecom...

Where did you get China Telecom from? The IANA released 1.0.0.0/8 to APNIC in 2010 and 1.1.1.0/24 was assigned to APNIC-LABS. The IRR Netname is actually still APNIC-LABS too. See:

https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.1.1#tabId=at-a-glance

> The IRR Netname is actually still APNIC-LABS too.

This is consistent with information on the page.

> 1.1.1.1 is a partnership between Cloudflare and APNIC.

The IANA released 1.0.0.0/8 to APNIC, and APNIC subsequently sold parts of it to China Telecom. I deduct this because neighboring IP ranges (https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.0.0#tabId=at-a-glance and https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.2.0#tabId=at-a-glance) belong to China Telecom. So 1.1.1.0 likely did too. I think the whois information may have reflected the China Telecom ownership before it was updated.

APNIC-LABS is probably just a joint partner in that Cloudflare resolver project.

No. 1.1.1.0/24 was not allocated because idiots poisoned it. For a long time address ranges like these were left unused because it wasn't worth anybody's time handling the problems but since IPv4 is now full we may as well do what we can with them.

So China Telecom will never have been given 1.1.1.0/24

Indeed, and there was always great worry about how polluted that IP space might be. I posted this link elsewhere:

https://www.merit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1.0.0.08.pd...

Very insightful slides. I was wrong about 1.1.1.0/8

1.1.1.0/24, you mean? Probably very little; the prefix gets tons of junk traffic.

Yeah, meant /24

The blog says APNIC owns it, does it not?

They don't need to buy the whole /8, they only need to buy the first /24

You don't actually buy CIDR prefixes.

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