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Comment by mozumder | Hacker News Reader

I mean, if Tesla is comparing their luxury car's death rates to motorcycles, which have 10x-50x the fatality rate of passenger cars, then, yes, it's dangerous.

Remember, there are several very normal cars models that have had ZERO deaths: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/record-9-models-have-...

These autopilot cars are death traps.

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I wonder if it’s possible to determine whether those cars have zero death rates in part because someone who would buy that model is less likely to get in a fatal accident in the first place—whether because of who they are, or how they were advertised, or whatever. I imagine a minivan owner as a very cautious driver…then again, I have been in the passenger seat when a friend was doing drifts in his mom’s minivan, so your mileage may vary.

I've had 2 of those cars - the Sorento and the Odyssey, and they both feel really tactile/agile to drive, as well as being chill, relaxing rides.

Yes, one might quip that males under the age of 25 wouldn't be seen dead in any of those vehicles.

Who doesn’t wanna sit in an Audi A4 Quattro?

I'd say the report is misleading.

Fatalities are rare events. They chose cars with 100,000 registered vehicles or more. The categories these vehicles belong to experienced around 30 deaths per million cars, so cars that have 100,000 registrations would expect 3 deaths. You could easily get a few models with 0 deaths just as a matter of chance.

I don't think these results necessarily show these cars are inherently safer than other cars in the same category.

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