So? You think Europe doesn't have people that are "beyond help" in prison? Or that their courts are wrong in not murdering them?
I don't think they're necessarily wrong for not executing them, but to say theres never a case where that's the best option for society and prisoners seems more ideological than realistic.
I'm not saying we won't some day have some better way of correcting such folks (maybe something like CRISPR comes along and allows us to modify their predispositions; but that opens up an entirely new can of ethical worms), but there is a valid question to ask: how much freedom and how much suffering do you allow a man to cause before you realize that he's only going to do more harm? And how do you balance that out without possibly torturing him?
I don't think we will ever find the perfect solution, but I do think we should be constantly looking, and I think metrics to measure the effectiveness of policies should help guide us.
Yeah, our violent crime rates are so worse compared to US... Please show us the way! /s
>in countries where women aren't even allowed to carry pepper spray, there's less emphasis on keeping innocents safe and more emphasis on giving terrible people third/fourth/fifth chances.
Maybe judge from the respective results, as opposed to "law and order theater"?