Penniless Yogi Baba Ramdev Controls a Billion-Dollar Corporation

The term was coined by a homeopathic doctor with he perceived intent of siloing modern scientific medication and medical study rather than attributing the legitimacy it’s earned due to the accepted rigours of the scientific process.

Not that homeopathic or Ayurvedic is not necessarily effective, but unless it’s submitted to the rigours of scientific study, it’s not science. Therefore if it passes itself off as science, it is a pseudoscience. In that case it doesn’t matter how many names anyone knows.

Proponents of homeopathy will say they’ve seen hundreds of successful cases too, despite the fact that the patients are receiving nothing but water.

If the stuff works, controlled studies will back it up.

Ayurveda claims that all illnesses are caused by imbalances in doshas. Please tell me how that isn't completely pseudo-scientific nonsense?

I don’t know a single prInciple of gypsy crystal ball gazing, but do I have to still be open minded about it?

The same with unani medicine or homeopathy?

Can you just point to some scientific studies instead of giving anecdotes?

Support of what?? Last I checked, there is a lack of (quality) studies comparing yoga to other forms of exercise.

Also, https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/magazine/how-yoga-can-wre...

"Anusandhana" "Anveshana" etc which are translated as Research. Ayurveda has the fundamental concept of Prama(Fact) that one statement made is truth only if proved by Pramanas, which include Pratyaksha(Perception), Anumana(Inference), Upamana(Analogy), Yukti(Planning) & Apthopadesha(Authoritative Testimony) each & every word in the samhita is written only after using these logic

India has a strong history of Logic, and philosophy that people discount on wholesale, while at the same time use it. For example the entire field of modern cognitive science, and consciousness science uses a tremendous amount of borrowed ideas from Buddhism, to Hinduism.

I feel that India generally isn't given enough credit for the progress it has made in the sciences, which is quite sad, and I can't help but feel that it's motivated by both an apathy among Indians towards their own history, and perhaps racism as many Indology departments in the USA tend to focus on the negatives, instead of positives as other religious, or cultural studies tend towards.

just because something that used to be labeled pseudoscience turns out to be real science, doesn't mean you can use that fact to defend other pseudoscience claims.

> Ayurveda descends from a similar lineage.

what are you implying here? that yoga is an ancient indian tradition and is proven to be legit, Ayurveda is also an ancient indian tradition, therefore it's probably also legit?

There is a lot of scientific principles under metabolism and carrying of oxigen by blood in life beings, but this does not mean that anybody is a scientist just for taking a deep breath or stretching their muscles.

It's extremely rare to come across a product that delivers on its promises.

The problem is that everyone is just too stupid to see through the marketing. Regardless of whether the marketing poses as science or religion.

I agree with you if you're talking about cough medicines though, because except for rare circumstances they are pretty much useless. Still gotta love DXM and that purple n yellow tho.

This is a myth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

You quoted/misquoted from here or there and proved me sectarian along with saying we forgot our core principle.

Let me start:

Did you hear about this controvercy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_textbook_controvers...

When I say I am alone, I mean that I dont expect my fair representation in global stage as in the example above.

Looks like you know a bit about Gita. Allow me to ask two simple question?

1. Why did Krishna guide Arjun to kill Kaurawa?

2. Why did Krishna belive that Duryodhan does not deserve power?

If you cannot answer these simple questions, please dont preach me anything about Gita.

That is a very uncharitable view. For centuries, trade flourished between east and west, and there was widespread exchange of both goods and ideas. The racism and distrust of "orientals" or "easterners" didn't come until much later, primarily in the era of colonialism (a seriously black mark on western history, as you know) and it didn't actually put a stop to trade and exchange of ideas.

>"So it's very difficult for people who have lived and educated in the West to realize that Eastern civilizations were at the height of glory once."

Not at all. We are very much aware of the great history of India, China, the Arab world and northern Africa, to name a few key areas where great civilizations of the ancient world flourished. Mostly in broad terms of course, it's hard enough to know every detail of your own history, never mind one that happened halfway around the world.

But similarly, you can say that it's very easy for people who have lived and been educated in the east, to not realize the heights reached by western civilizations. One's own history is much closer, obviously.

>"When Indian sages were debating intricate points of philosophy, people in the West were still in caves and lead a tribal existence."

That is not a very charitable view. In this time period, the ancient Greek and Roman civilizations flourished, and you would hardly call them tribal cave people.

Some people in the west (especially in the colder, harsher northern areas) lived in tribal societies, just as some people in the east did. But to completely ignore the great civilizations around the Mediterranean sea is not a very informed view to take.

>"Hindu metaphysics is much superior to any other metaphysical system in the world."

By which measure? Remember that contemporary western civilizations also had intricate spiritual and philosophical systems.

>"It's easy to be blinded by the current events and lose perspective."

I will contend that it is much easier to be blinded by past glory, and especially a historically "massaged" and "improved" view of ancient history. The danger of having a backwards perspective is that you become blind to current events and the future. We cannot live in the past, and "we were great once, you know" is a dead end, not a way forward.

Personally, I am disturbed by this strong rise of hindu nationalism (and nationalism in general), because we have seen what it can lead to. Massacres, world wars, conquest of "lesser people", widespread oppression, economies set back by decades or even centuries. We should endeavor to never repeat these mistakes.

Usually I just look at what the testing agency says

>Nearly 40% of Ayurveda products, including items from Baba Ramdev’s Patanjali, were found to be of substandard quality by Haridwar’s Ayurveda and Unani Office, a Right to Information (RTI) reply revealed.

Out of the 82 samples collected between 2013 and 2016, 32 failed the quality test. Patanjali’s Divya Amla Juice and Shivlingi Beej were among the products that failed to meet the quality standards.

Last month, the armed forces’ Canteen Stores Department (CSD) had suspended the sale of a batch of Patanjali’s amla juice after it ‘failed’ a quality test carried out at West Bengal Public Health Laboratory.

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The company story will be the same “our material is safe and fine.”