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Apple really need to react if they want swift to get any traction. IOS hasn’t had any major UI update since iOS7 , and android is a mess anyway, so using a cross platform now makes more sense than ever. The icing on the cake would be to have a path for reusing dart business layer between flutter and angular.

That’s a really promising stack.

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Ha. This is hilarious. Most high-profile / successful iOS apps (other than games) are native. And judging from what I’m seeing in the ecosystem, I’d guess that most teams out there have switched to Swift or will do so soon. There’s very little enthusiasm or innovation in the Objective-C ecosystem at this point.

The lack of a major UI update in the last few years is a feature, not a bug. It doesn’t seem to have held back either iOS device sales or the Swift ecosystem.

I don't think you got my comment right. I was advocating for apple to expand swift to other platforms ( android, pc desktop, web, server, whatever), in order to compete with techs like flutter.

The reason cross platform tools weren't a good fit before and are now is both because hardware is now powerful enough, and because platforms have now reach a stable point.

You might be interested in this talk [1] from Dart Conf that highlights code sharing between Flutter and Angular Dart. The general take-away is that code sharing is possible, it requires however a strict separation of UI related and business logic code.

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHln7wHgPE

That was my intuition, thanks. I'll definitely investigate. I'm also thinking a full stack dart platform, since dart also hs a very interesting server side story.

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