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I guess it's time to move to Gitlab.

I am gonna wait and see. I know they messed up Skype really bad, but LinkedIN for example they havent touched and destroyed. I will wait and see..

LinkedIn is kinda hard to make worse though tbh

Microsoft screwed up Skype by trying to “make it more Microsoft” whereas LinkedIn is being left to operate as before (tough MSFT is using the data for something). My guess is that GitHub will continue as before with the main change being that MSDN subscribers will likely get private GitHub repos as part of their package.

Now MSFT just needs something along the lines of Jira to replace the dog’s breakfast that is VSTS Agile project management tooling. I don’t suppose the folks in Redmond are looking to acquire Atlassian next...?

You dont pay 2 Billion, and leave it untouched, they see an earnings potential in the company given the right management and shareholders expect ROI that is higher then the average market return

Thanks for this comment.

Most of the discussio here is just centered around Microsofts goodwill and trustworthiness, mostly ignoring that MS wouldn't make this investment without a solid plan and path to profitability.

That doesn't have to be bad per se, I guess there are a lot of options like integrating Github well with Azure and providing alternatives to AWS CodeCommit / pipelines, ...

Microsoft can monetize the data in a way that github themselves couldn’t. It can also afford to lose money for strategic reasons.

Although I completely agree with you, pointing at LinkedIn as a success story is kind of weird.

Microsoft's new future is to be a cross-platform vendor for developers. I see absolutely zero incompatibility between Github and Microsoft and a need to shut it down. I think the Satya's Microsoft is smart enough not to ruin it.

Or you can move immediately like many others. What would you gain by staying until it's too late?

It's good that there is such an alternative as GitLab, because there is a slight but still not unsignificant risk that MS will not do the right thing. I think they will though since they are power users of their own product. I'm hoping they know this space.

MS has had an 180 degree turn in policy since Balmer left.

Lately they released amazing open-source projects with VSCode being the most prominent one.

I simply have little trust in MS. They did improve in some areas, but not enough to gain overall trust. They are still not on the same page with many FOSS efforts.

Company which actively pushes lock-in and patent aggression is not a good steward for FOSS projects.

particularly when most microsoft investors value microsoft stock for its earnings potential, as opposed to growth/revenue potential.

Add to that Microsoft's position about copyrightability of APIs. That alone should be a red flag for many FOSS projects to avoid Github if MS buys it.

And TypeScript <3!

Looking at Windows 10, with stuff like telemetry that's impossible to disable completely and hidden behind every dark pattern imaginable, or ads in Start menu?

Microsoft of today is more Microsoft than ever.

Eh. Windows today might be more Microsoft than ever, but the rest of the org is spending lots of effort creating cross platform developer tools that's preparing Microsoft to remain relevant in a world that doesn't involve Windows PCs.

True, they went from Scroogled to mandatory telemetry, while focusing on renting out servers at ridiculous markups. Don't forget the new focus on the Windows Store either.

Meanwhile, all their non-developer-focused products are still Windows-only and closed-source.

They really haven't. Maybe like a 150 degree turn at best.

As i know it started under Balmer, but he have to left because the failed phone OS.

Honest question: do the still threaten Linux-related companies with suing for violations of unspecified Microsoft patents?

Last time I've heard, MS is still shaking down many mobile manufactures who use Android, using patent protection racket.

I thought many people did after the infamous incident at Github.

Some did, but this will be another major incentive.

What incident?

They ran dome SQL on wrong server and wiped main db instead of its mirror. Lost around 48 hours of stuff (as multiple backups also failed)

Any links to artciles that describe it in more details?

https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/01/gitlab-dot-com-database-...

This is GitLab, not GitHub.

I think the majority of the Github users started using the platform in the time since that, and don't even know much about Github's history.

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