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Comment by shaohua | Hacker News Reader

at 10 years birthday of app engine and 10 years birthday of python3

I like to remind people that Python 3 was already more than a year old when Apple announced the first iPad. I'm not sure anyone should be getting a cookie for 'working on' Py3 support more than nine years later. Though I do understand that GAE has supported Py 3 for a while in its more configurable service.

True, though I have to say it only got usable around 3.4 (which still is 4y.o. at this point)

What did 3.4 give you that 2.7 already had? I have found bundled pip and asyncio useful, but I was using Py3 from 3.2, successfully. It didn't suddenly become usable at 3.4 for me.

Yeah, pip. You could install it manually, but to be honest, pip and virtualenv are fundamental today (I mean, before containers, but still)

I think what happened was that 3.2 was the first "real" release, when a lot of .0 bugs were shaken out; the 'u' prefix was added back around that time too, iirc.

This resulted in more developers actually porting their libraries, an effort that had been basically non-existent before. The result was that the 3.4 ecosystem actually got mature enough that Real Work could get done, and more end-users started moving.

IIRC 3.3 also had some big performance problems that were sorted in 3.4, but I cannot remember the details.

Personally, I did very little with 3.2 but actually built Real Stuff only with 3.4.

To be fair: PEP 3333 that addresses WSGI support with Python 3 Unicode was initially drafted in September 2010. I would consider that to be the first day we can write a web server in Python 3.

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