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>>Have you ever tried explaining the various python package and environment management options to someone with a background in Excel/SQL?

Yes, well, from the outside it doesn't seem like Python programmers have any better grasp of those either.

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You might be right. Whereas programmers tend to regard languages as something to be understood, package managers are something they just use ("if it works, it works"). Typical R users (i.e. data analysts) regard languages a bit like programmers regard package managers.

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