The parents for whom crossing a line resulted in verbal/physical abuse but were otherwise fine tend to have good relationships with their kids. While the punishment is much more severe than it would be in other families, there's a clear logical structure that a child can understand. When I was younger I would say stuff like "My dad hit us sometimes when we were being dumb, but otherwise he was great". However, I've long learned that people that grew up in the middle/upper class don't want to hear statements like that and get extremely uncomfortable, so I now leave it at "my childhood was good".
On the other hand, the people I knew growing up that had a father that was arbitrary with their anger tend to have non-existing/bad relationships with their fathers. I'd see situations where the father would tell their son to do X, son would respond that they've finished X already, father would lose their temper and scream at them to do X again, which made no sense. When you do that, you're not teaching a lesson or imposing any structure, you're just teaching your son that you're an asshole. Unsurprisingly, these children grow up with extreme resentment towards their fathers that has lasted into adulthood.
People possibly react strangely to that for a few additional reasons?
- Culturally now, "hit" can refer to anything all the way up to criminal domestic violence, blunt weapons, and hospital visits.
- Kids routinely cover for their parents, even when they are the second kind- the kind that just lose their temper, beat their children unconscious, etc.
Less vague terms like "spanked", "slapped", etc might cause milder reactions...
Best advice don't be your child's friend be parent plenty of peers who can be friends but none that can be parents.
However I hope in the future we be friends, when I don't need to wipe their ass or provide food and shelter.
I think of "friend" as someone you enjoy spending free time with and are willing/open to confiding in
I don't know exactly how that fits within the definition of being their "friend" exactly. It sounds a little adjacent to friendship to me.
I don’t hate my dad, he is a flawed man but I love him. We both like NFL, boxing, and movies so we talk a lot about that.
My brother is mostly estranged from my dad and they talk rarely, but we all do get together most thanksgivings.