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Comment by megaman22 | Hacker News Reader

Somebody wake me up when we move beyond reimplementing Java applets and Flash once more. We had nice batteries-included VMs in the browser, and we turned our backs on them and went back to square one. Again, and again, and again. So we could bang rocks together with javascript.

Almost makes me wish VBScript IE had won. We might be writing browser apps in .NET now...

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One might be seen as sleeping back then too if they considered proprietary, complicated, insecure behemoths with large, sometimes shitty standard libraries and forced high-level constructs as "nice batteries-included VMs".

> sometimes shitty

I still have to do .stream() and .toList() (or .collect(Collectors.toList())) back and forth in Java all the time just to get reliable access to map/filter lambdas while still having a valid return value.

Java's shittiness is a problem, but for the mid 2000s, it wasn't extra shitty in comparison. That long stagnation after 1.6 really hurt.

Flash's demise is 100% Adobe's fault. https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=adobe+flash

Yeah, there are 1098 Flash related CVEs, but Google Chrome itself also has 1608 CVEs https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=google+chro...

Better stop using Chrome now.

Are those CVEs still active or has google/adobe fixed them already?

They generally only get published in any detail once they've been fixed.

Chrome seem to have a bunch of 2018 vulnerabilities that aren't listed here though...

Yes, the fact that Google Chrome is written in C++ is nothing short of total disaster. It is bad for humanity. Just count all those "use after free" vulnerabilities.

Yes, the fact that the Linux kernel is written in C is nothing short of total disaster. It is bad for humanity. Just count all those "use after free" vulnerabilities.

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