Modern Microsoft... God you guys are falling so much for PR it's not even funny.
It's the same company with another coat of paint, designed to get you to react exactly how you are reacting now. And you don't even realize.
It's the same company with another coat of paint, designed to get you to react exactly how you are reacting now. And you don't even realize.
Why can't people be excited by something from Microsoft?
The rest is just a trap to get developers back on their platform.
I'm not a fan of Apple either, but at least they are not hypocrites.
If MS stopped pretending that they <3 Linux. (see my other comments)
And if they stopped pretending that they are this new friendly open company. Forcing upgrades to win10 and forced telemetry that is a pain in the ass to turn of permanently, is not at all open or user friendly. What a privacy nightmare.
If they did just that, then at least I wouldn't hate them for being such hypocritical assholes. They'd just be a company whose products I don't like.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2878026/microsoft-to-b...
I thought that this article was overly pessimistic until Microsoft's rings of "insiders" didn't catch the fact that the Windows 1803 update broke machines with pretty common Intel and Toshiba SSDs.
All of this wouldn't bother me at all if it weren't for the MS Office monopoly that forced everyone from schoolchildren to public servants to deal with this crap. I want nothing to do with keeping this business running.
If they honestly released a top notch version of Office for Linux would you, in 2018 where most have switched to Google Docs or other web based office tools actually use it?
I very much doubt it. I feel you're just reeling these things off as some burden of work you want them to toil away at as a debt you expect them to pay to the Linux community.
If they did release Office for Linux, I'd use it for work, since everyone uses it there.
> I feel you're just reeling these things off as some burden of work you want them to toil away at as a debt you expect them to pay to the Linux community.
I don't think they owe anyone anything. I'm just saying if they claim to love open source or Linux, then they need to prove it.
So the online version of Office 365 and the desktop version and the mobile apps will share a lot of the same code. This would also make it far easier to deliver desktop apps for Linux should they decide it's worth it.
They've also worked together with Linux projects to make the Windows Subsystem for Linux a thing (so you can now actually "install Ubuntu" from the Windows app store).
The vendor lock-in company you're thinking of is now called Apple, not Microsoft.
I will believe they changed, when they release their crown jewels (especially Office) for Linux as a first-class release (i.e. not ala IE for Solaris or WMP for HPUX).
If so, yes
Not to mention the fact that they are extremely user hostile. Putting ads in a paid for OS? And mining private data. If their OS was free I'd at least say they had an excuse to do that.
But microsoft does. So by not open sourcing or releasing their main products on Linux, they are being hypocritical assholes who just want to look good.
.NET Core runs on Mac, Windows and Linux and is BSD licensed, and totally not all garbage (though I'm guessing you will disagree with me here with no backing facts because what defines garbage is mostly opinionated views). VS Code is the same scenario. Wow it astounds me the lack of understanding coming from you.
So what I'm saying is that it doesn't really bring anything worthwhile to the table.
VS Code. Yeah, I am not at all interested in an electron based code editor. And yet again, there is nothing new or novel here. There are dozens of other code editors that are free, cross platform, and very powerful.
If they open sourced (or even released on multiple platforms) Visual Studio, then I'd take notice. Same for Office.
> Wow it astounds me the lack of understanding coming from you.
And I'm likewise astounded at all the people falling for microsoft's brainwashing PR bullshit.
Again with the lack of understanding, Microsoft produced a new standard for editors called Language Server Protocol[0] that once implemented in an editor and for a language can be used across editors and IDEs. They are doing more contributions through VS Code than you realize.
As for Open Sourcing VS I would love that but VS Code is snappy and awesome as it is so it doesn't bother me. VS Code with the right plugins (same can be said of Emacs, Vi etc) is amazing. For Dlang / Rust the best support I've seen for either language is for VS Code which is the youngest mainstream editor out there atm. Don't simply dismiss VS Code it's fame / usage speaks for it's own quality as a tool for editors. You even see in Sublime Text and Atom discussions that a number of people have just simply switched to VS Code.
Have you tried VS Code and decided it's bad or are you just being prejudiced?
None of MS’s competitors open source any of their key products either.
Companies change. Especially large corporations that have always been fairly heterogeneous. Microsoft never cared about killing open source, Microsoft cared about improving its bottom line and killing open source was considered a necessity to accomplish that goal. That didn't work out and now they're doing things differently.
Careful, you’ll end up like ESR