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That's just flat out wrong: https://i.imgur.com/ae1yyXI.png

We added support for TTF fonts a few releases ago.

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...and by "few releases ago", you mean Windows 2000?

http://unixwiz.net/images/console-setup3.gif

(Personally, I don't care for TTF since I prefer the contrast and sharpness of a good pixel font, like this one: http://www.hassings.dk/lars/fonts.html )

I think there were two steps. Yes, TrueType fonts have been available for quite a while, but the list was fixed and you had to edit the registry to add other fonts. The current state seems to be that monospaced fonts installed are automatically picked up by that list, so no registry editing necessary anymore.

All I know is that the last time I installed Windows 10, I still had to edit the registry for it to find DejaVu Sans Mono.

If that has changed recently, that's fantastic!

Console now enumerates and allows selection of monospace TTF fonts.

Alas, as one of our dev's says often "Fonts are just files containing collections of lies"!

Some fonts claim to only contain monospace, glyphs, but don't and include non-monospace or irregularly sized chars. Others just lie completely.

But if you have well-formed TTF fonts, that express correct metdata, and ARE monospace, then they should be selectable.

Having buggy fonts is no reason to hide fonts from the user.

Wow, so that's fixed after almost 30 years! Flat out amazing, what a team!

...so if they don't fix it, the console sucks. But if they do fix it you still find the need to be snarky?

I think the concept is that if they had added it a long time ago, is that would be good or average. Adding it very late is not worthy of praise, and lacking it for years is still worthy of condemnation. While the change may be part of a broader positive trend, it does not absolve them of the past.

Why not, though? Is it really that useful to fill every Microsoft-related topic with comments that amount to "Micro$oft lol"-level trolling?

I mean, they used to suck, we get it. They're actively trying to improve but that, too, is not enough.

  - "You used to be fat!"
  - "I'm thin now, though, through hard work. Isn't that worth something?"
  - "...but you used to be fat!"

The company has an almost 40 year history. When you’ve built up and miss trust over decades, peoples attitudes are not going to change overnight.

Personally, while I was merely describing what I perceived other people’s viewpoints to be, I don’t know why it’s so hard for Microsoft to make a normal terminal app. People have the choice of a dozen adequate terminal apps on Linux. I guess this article explains any difficulty.

As far as MS modernizing, one could look at it as, what would you think if 25 or 30 years ago, IBM said that they were turning around and we’re now a modern, agile company instead of a slow-moving relic of the previous era, and they built an awesome new console app for OS/2?

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