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She recently got interviewed in Ezra Klein's show to discuss the same:

https://art19.com/shows/the-ezra-klein-show/episodes/109611f...

To paraphrase one of the better soundbites in the show: YouTube is like that friend in high school who always outdoes you no matter what you do. You're vegetarian, she's vegan; you're moderate left or right, she's at the more extreme end of the political spectrum; etc.

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Thanks for using this Art19 link, I’d never heard of this company. Glad to know there are folks out there hard at work ruining podcasts.

Out of curiosity, why are you writing they're ruining podcasts? (FWIW, I wasn't aware of them until today, when I searched that podcast's permalink on their site.)

This is my first time hearing about art19. But after a quick visit to their site, I can guess at what GP was referring to. Looks like they do listener tracking, targeted ads, dynamic ad insertion, etc.

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