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Some of the Points are relevant (inequality, housing), one is subjective (shallow culture), one is relative (taxes), one is without proof (voting). And regarding the last, and this question is truely serious because I don't get it, what is it with the obsession about the First? Maybe I'm so used that everybody can voice opinion and a free press that I take it for granted, but still.

And free speech goes both ways, just saying.

Disclaimer: I'm not from the US, so some insight into how free speech is looked at in the US would really be appreciated.

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Voting: https://nypost.com/2018/07/18/san-francisco-allows-non-citiz...

Look at what's happening at college campuses. Students and administrators are openly against free speech, because it "harms minorities"

Which, one being they guys running the place is their full right (in Germany it is called Hausrecht, the right of some to decide who is allowed to speak at ones place, that logic of course does NOT apply to governments and states), and two falls in opinion under hate is not to be accepted.

Based on recent political events, I would argue that it is getting more difficult in the US to be "tolerant of the intolerant". Should university students be allowed to take their grievances with speakers coming to their school not only to the streets but to the university administration when someone has viewpoints that are intolerant of LGBT, for example? I would say yes, it's an intolerable position.

At the same time, it is important to note that Devin Nunes, the congressman who runs the House Intelligence Committee, and a Republican, is from California. Thus, it can't be completely true that California is a monoculture.

Thanks for the answer. True, it is really difficult to draw the line between tolerance and tolreance of intolerance. Let's hope we all get better at that!

It's a common dog whistle from the right about college campuses suppressing the free speech of Conservatives. Their complaints stem from Conservative commentators being rejected from speaking gigs on college campuses, sometimes because of protests.

Thanks for the answer. Maybe, I'm being optimistic here, society learns how to better deal with diferent opinions in the future out of this.

Just for my understanding, it is more about the venue of where conservative commentators are allowed to speak and less about the fact that they speak in General? If it is that it seems to be kind of abusive of the First, trying to use to gain admission to every conceivable place for a Rally or talk.

This is not about conservatives, it hits everyone: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17644180/po...

Making this issue a conservative vs liberal issue is dishonest and doesn't get us anywhere

Yeah, that is right. And I won't deny that there some very fine idiots on both sides.

Try again, kiddo.

This is not about conservatives, it hits everyone, ESPECIALLY LEFT WINGERS: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17644180/po...

Making this issue a conservative vs liberal issue is dishonest and doesn't get us anywhere

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