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Sorry to be holy-wary, but that was outrageous: just watched random pieces of that video until found one where he actually codes, basically vim Python editing.

So I opened somewhere around this moment: https://youtu.be/7Hlb8YX2-W8?t=17039

And, first, he copy-pastes some code, and then spends about a minute figuring if he got tabs converted to spaces, including googling a vim command.

Then he proceeds to make a loop over some collection next to the loop over an adjacent collection. And he makes that stupid mistake of renaming a variable of the loop, but no renaming in the body.

Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim.

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>> Man, if that's how professional vim users work, this piece of video will be the only proof I will ever need to prevent zealots from even wasting IDE users time to try vim.

I'm a zealot, and it's a waste of my time to try and convince someone to use vim. If someone is trying to sell you on using vim, remind them of the code they should be writing instead of flapping their lips at you. The "you gotta use vim!" folks are usually half-adept hacks. They don't quite understand it as fully as they feel they should, so instead they try to get good vibes by convincing you to make the same decisions they did.

disclaimer: 20-year vi/vim user - could care less whether anyone else uses it or not.

You know, someone's wrong on the Internet :-D

Also, George Hotz is a famous hacker, maybe not Carmack or Linus, but definitely somewhere on that scale. Even that video shows an interesting work.

Also, I used `zealot` in the sense of advertisement, not normal passion.

The best article on VIM is "Why, oh WHY, do those #?@! nutheads use vi?" http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html

I myself use vi modes inside IDE's, and can't be happier.

You missed the real point. Its not how he uses vim. It's a rare chance to experience how a 1000x programmer works. Its a gift to see a very bright, proven programmer code. To look at how an accomplished knowledgeable coder thinks, google's with the kind of keyword, what websites he vists, the songs he plays, even the kind of drinks, food e.t.c(for 11 hours straight some drinks might be suited best). If you work for a big tech company( and in the right team) you might get to see over the shoulders of 1000x devs. But for the rest of us this is the closest to looking over the shoulder of 1000x dev at work.

I've read this comment 10 times and I still can't tell if it's satire or not. Well done, either way.

Definitely not satire. Curious why do you think so ?.

I guess its because I never said, that he is not a very good hacker. So the objection in your comment looked out of place, but the comment would make more sense in a sarcastic assent.

cmu pushes vim in most of their courses, all the TAs use it too that's why you aren't seeing glorious emacs hacking on cruise control by GeoHot

Geohot is normally an emacs user?

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