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I don't remember why Zune has a bad name, but I suppose the early models weren't as good. The 2nd gen Zune that I owned was a great mp3-player, definitely up to par to the iPod. And if WP7 has a Zune-player built in then that is a selling point.

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Zune has a bad name because it sold poorly. Even from day 1 it was a good MP3 player. But it got a name as being an MS device that sold poorly compared to the iPod. It was a market failure, but for people that used it was/is a great device.

It's the Amiga (in the 80s) of MP3 players.

The Zune's a fine device, but in the end it's just another mp3 player. The Amiga was something special

I have a 1st gen Zune (black, not brown), and I think it's great. It doesn't have some of the flashy stuff or a touch screen like the newer models have, but it's never crashed on me. It's solid. I've dropped this thing a bunch of times (sometimes the "drop" was a bit more of a launch across the room, whoops) and it's not even scratched. Plus MS still supports it with almost all the new features, like Zune Pass--which is currently my favorite music service. (I wish the channels were updated more often, but they're still decent.)

The only reason I haven't upgraded to a new Zune is because this thing just works so well.

It didn’t help that Zune was released in — pardon me — _poop brown._

...and had a feature called "squirting".

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