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If you aren’t diabetic, you need to do hours and hours of intense cardio to Bonk (run out of glycogen).

As long as you’re not doing whole day fasts, I don’t think the burden of effort is any higher than the protocol you’ve outlined.

When beginner discipline is the subject, simple rules tend to work better. Your confidence following simple rules allows you to then tolerate more complicated regimes.

Edit to add: Personally, I don’t agree with ADF but for strength training your muscles are rebuilding for days afterward. If you’re trying to gain muscle quickly you’ve probably already decided ADF isn’t for you. But to maintain or gain slowly? I’m not sure it’s going to slow you down that much.

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I'm not familiar with the term bonk, but I thought the glycogen in each major muscle ran out after about 20m? I've read many times that during cardio the body starts burning fat only after the first 20m. Then it releases a chemical to begin burning calories from fatty tissue.

Your liver also stores a significant amount of glycogen that it can release into the bloodstream. "Bonking" is a term from endurance events, for example in a marathon bonking typically takes place around 20 miles into the race when runners have been running for more than 2 hours, which fully depletes their glycogen stores. Modern runners typically refuel with carbohydrates, drinks/gels, to delay bonking, but depending on pace and time you typically can't consume enough calories to fully replenish what you have used and will bonk eventually. Then you will need to continue at a slower pace burning fat for fuel.

I’m an ex cyclist but occasionally I like a bit of nostalgia. This recalls to me one conversation with a coworker who pointed out that while exerting yourself you can only absorb around 600 calories an hour, but as we know, you can burn thousands.

You have what’s in your muscles, liver, stomach, and whatever your body can cannibalize from fat and muscle. If you go long enough (without overdoing it) you start burning muscle, which is a really good example of why recovery and pace matter so much. And why runners and cyclists have those wiry little arms.

Friday99 gave a pretty good explanation but to offer a little insight into the experience: your brain runs on glycogen too. The Bonk is what happens when your glycogen stores crash so far that your mental capacity is diminished.

Smart communities train their members to watch for heat exhaustion, heat stroke, and bonking, how to tell the difference, and how to care for people in these situations.

The rules are psuedoscience peddled by health gurus.

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