And? I didn’t have the right to vote until I immigrated to America.
> Is your belief that women have never been marginalized?
Throughout history lots of people have had a shit time. Some groups worse than others.
I think there is a lot to unpack in your statement.
Marginalized as compared to who?
The poster I am replying to claimed:
> important to note that exactly one of the two "sides"
I.e. they were making a mutually exclusive claim.
Because otherwise, I still don't understand your point.
Which group do you think black men belong to?
You've neatly sidestepped addressing this on the times that I've brought it up, which is why I keep on harping on this point. There are two possible reasons you're doing this: one is that you legitimately didn't realize that marginalization has multiple levels, in which case maybe you should take a moment to think about the history of the world and the various forms oppression has taken, and the other is that you're deliberately making a bad-faith argument. I'd certainly hope you're not arguing in bad faith, because that would be incredibly rude, but I wanted to make sure I called out what you were doing (and failing to do) to make it clear to anybody who wanders by and reads the argument.
No. My argument is that some women have used their privilege to falsely accuse men in the past and that assigning privilege based on social justice groupings is both stupid and immoral.
I literally cannot follow your reasoning at all. I’m the one saying privilege is both relative and context specific.
You seem to be trying to apply some strange kind of privilege averaging?
Ok let’s back up a bit then:
Why exactly, in the context of the metoo movement, is it important to consider that on average women have been historically more marginalized than men?
What does historically lacking the right to vote have to do with the veracity of sexual assault allegations?